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  • W who

    All the major desktop distros play games about as well as one another, assuming you set them up correctly.

    Choose a distro based on other criteria, like the release cadence and admin tools that you find most comfortable. If you don’t have any particular needs or preferences, I guess you could save 10 minutes by choosing a distro that installs Nvidia drivers by default, but it’s not going to run games appreciably better than the others.

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    psythik@lemmy.world
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    Garuda Linux if you want something that just works out of the box, but with the power to do whatever you want. It’s basically Arch with all the gaming stuff pre-configured for you.

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      omega_jimes@lemmy.ca
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      If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.

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      • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

        What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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        lightfire228@pawb.social
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        I use arch, but they’re all equivalent. A distro is more like a preconfigured linux

        Just pick one of the popular ones and tinker

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          Angry_Autist (he/him)
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          #130

          So Linux bumps up 2 percentage points due to steam decks and all the linuxbois are taking a victory lap

          Windows lives in your head rent free

          You’re worse than vegans, at least vegans have a moral position.

          Edit: screenshotting this for when the mods ban me again

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          • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

            Microsoft is already responding to the potential shift. The upcoming ROG Xbox Ally X handheld from Microsoft and ASUS will reportedly ship with a gaming-optimized version of Windows 11 with a dedicated Xbox UI and interface that aims to streamline the experience while boosting in-game performance and overall handheld efficiency.

            Given how much Microsoft wants to shove AI tools every where in Windows, I don’t think this optimisation will make much of a difference.

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            k0e3@lemmy.ca
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            #131

            Yeah and honestly, whatever optimization they promise — or deliver, for that matter — won’t sway me because it’s the company itself and the country where it is based that I’m against at this point. So, there’s no way I’m ever going to buy any MS handheld.

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            • A Angry_Autist (he/him)

              So Linux bumps up 2 percentage points due to steam decks and all the linuxbois are taking a victory lap

              Windows lives in your head rent free

              You’re worse than vegans, at least vegans have a moral position.

              Edit: screenshotting this for when the mods ban me again

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              mashirotenshi@lemmy.world
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              #132

              I’m in the process of jumping into Linux. Still getting my sea legs, but your take just seems intentionally inflammatory.

              I’m not sure what you thought you were accomplishing by posting it.

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              • A Angry_Autist (he/him)

                So Linux bumps up 2 percentage points due to steam decks and all the linuxbois are taking a victory lap

                Windows lives in your head rent free

                You’re worse than vegans, at least vegans have a moral position.

                Edit: screenshotting this for when the mods ban me again

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                Maxx
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                #133

                What an extremely normal way to respond to this post

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                • M mashirotenshi@lemmy.world

                  I’m in the process of jumping into Linux. Still getting my sea legs, but your take just seems intentionally inflammatory.

                  I’m not sure what you thought you were accomplishing by posting it.

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                  Angry_Autist (he/him)
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                  #134

                  It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them

                  No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.

                  Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.

                  This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards

                  The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake

                  So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.

                  Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?

                  The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control

                  Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you

                  Fuck linux

                  Fuck the people who promote it

                  That is all

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                  • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                    What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                    codeblooded@programming.dev
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                    #135

                    I left Debian for Arch recently and let me tell you, you immediately feel the difference with running the latest drivers for your machine. The bleeding edge drivers have upped my frames per second significantly in videos games compared to sticking with stable releases on Debian (and Ubuntu).

                    With the built-in archinstall script making Arch so easy to get going, I’d only reach for anything else if I really needed the stability.

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                    • N nuxcom_90percent@lemmy.zip

                      most of my programs existed on both

                      Good on you. Plenty of people have many problems because a lot of industry standard tools (e.g. fusion 360 for CAD) don’t exist on Linux and actively break under Wine/Proton

                      And my games just worked

                      And great (and same). But most of that is just not actively breaking Proton. Which is the Wine team plus Valve.

                      As for BF6: the point is that one of THE biggest third party publishers out there has spent the past year or so actively blocking Proton in almost all of their games. And for their new flagship title that they want to be the biggest game ever (ha!), they are already actively blocking Proton again.

                      Which goes against the “many 3rd party companies are taking notice and releasing for both”. Which was already not even a thing since the vast majority of those aren’t doing linux binaries (tried that 10 and 20 and 30 years ago…) and are just not actively breaking Proton.

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                      chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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                      You can use Fusion 360 in Linux with Wine. But instead of even trying that, I used my switch to Linux as the catalyst to switch to FreeCAD. Using FOSS just feels so much nicer.

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                      • BombOmOmB BombOmOm

                        Bazzite is the go-to gaming distro. It’s basically Steam OS.

                        I’m personally a fan of Mint (old, stable) or Fedora Plasma (cutting edge), as both feel very familiar coming from Windows. I went with Mint personally.

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                        chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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                        #137

                        Bazzite is Fedora and you can get it in KDE Plasma or Gnome flavors.

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                          Won’t miss those years tweaking Windows to uninstall or disable bloatware and malware. I don’t mind if more or less people migrate to Linux, I’m just grateful to those who are making and improving such amazingly good distros. 💪💛

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                          chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz
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                          Instead you’ll spend your time littering your own computer with bloatware!

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                            It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them

                            No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.

                            Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.

                            This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards

                            The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake

                            So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.

                            Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?

                            The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control

                            Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you

                            Fuck linux

                            Fuck the people who promote it

                            That is all

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                            offspec@lemmy.world
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                            The rage bait isn’t even funny anymore lmao, most used OS on the planet btw. Have fun sucking microsoft off I guess

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                              The rage bait isn’t even funny anymore lmao, most used OS on the planet btw. Have fun sucking microsoft off I guess

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                              Angry_Autist (he/him)
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                              #140

                              Only for servers, and of course the fact that you are dishonest about the metric just reinforces all I feel towards your ilk

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                              • A abettertomorrow@sh.itjust.works

                                What’s the best Linux distro to play games? Im currently on Ubuntu 22.04 and won’t leave it as my main but I have a AMD TR 1950 with a GTX 1080 TI will to play some final fantasy.

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                                offspec@lemmy.world
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                                If you just want an experience as straight forward as the steam deck I have heard that the move is to just run Bazzite.

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                                • B Maxx

                                  What an extremely normal way to respond to this post

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                                  Angry_Autist (he/him)
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                                  what an extremely neurotypical way to respond to my medically induced outrage

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                                  • nuko147@lemmy.worldN nuko147@lemmy.world

                                    How is your idle VRAM (video RAM) holding? For some reason i have 1GB usage in Mint with Cinnamon without anything running, while on windows i have 400MB (although i have optimised them a lot).

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                                    sorryquick@lemmy.ca
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                                    400MB??? What do you have running? I never use more than 100 unless I open a game or something.

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                                      It’s important to me for linux users to know how much I despise them

                                      No one is more bitter than a disillusioned ex-believer, and I tried so hard to be an early Linux adopter in the late 90s, early 00s. I was bright eyed and full of hope for an open source future.

                                      Spent 3 years trying to transition to linux as my daily driver, and every time I tried it was just days of frustration and every time I tried to go to any of the various linux forums at the time, all I got in return was literally hundreds of users telling me to read a list of books before I had the right to ask questions.

                                      This happened EVERY FUCKDAMN place I went, forums, usenet, IRC, even oldschool bulletin boards

                                      The worst part about the experience is that the environment is so fractured that every distro is basically it’s own unique thing, with quirks and differences that aren’t apparent to people who haven’t been using them for years already, and that everyone is so fuckdamn hard on depreciating still used functions or just renaming fucking functions for vanity sake

                                      So past forum posts are likely just not going to be helpful anymore, which is a really fucking ridiculous design choice when one of the primary project goals is ubiquitous interoperability and long term support.

                                      Linux is a waste of human energy. Can you even imagine the hundreds of millions of human development hours that went into failed distros and vanity changes being actually used to make one unified fucking amazing OS?

                                      The original dream was a community of dedicated and passionate devs working together to unseat corporate software control

                                      Instead what we got was a thousand fractured groups all doing whatever the fuck they feel like and now you need a fuckdamn college course to figure out which of the thousand distros are for you

                                      Fuck linux

                                      Fuck the people who promote it

                                      That is all

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                                      archonet@lemy.lol
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                                      #144

                                      I am sorry you have such passionate hatred for something a bunch of nerds tried to do for everyone else for free, to be nice. I am also sorry you have apparently not tried gaming on Linux in the past ~3 years. It can’t be comfortable having all that pent-up anger inside you.

                                      I myself used to be like you, namely around the early 2010s when Linux distros started gaining GUIs that weren’t stuck in the 90s. Where they looked sleek and modern and oh god were they not at all, they just looked that way. I tried to make it work, but every time I had to boot back to Windows to do something I eventually just ended up staying in Windows. I can’t fathom how fucking archaic and awful it would’ve been to use in the 90s/early 00s, you tried to struggle through that for three years? I barely made it a few months with Ubuntu 10.04 in ~2010. Something I said then, and still say now to Linux dorks who don’t “get it”, is that “some of us want to work on their computer, not work on their computer.” I just want shit to work. I don’t want to troubleshoot or tweak or fiddle-fuck with settings. My OS is a means to an end, not an end in and of itself – if I’m spending more time fucking with the OS than I am using other programs on it, something has gone dearly wrong.

                                      Having said that, I switched to Mint about a year and a half ago, and it works pretty well for me, not nearly as many headaches as I recall when I tried Linux ~15 years ago. When I printed something from a network printer and it just worked without bullshit issues, I was floored. There’s still the occasional hiccup, but then, I also had to deal with occasional hiccups on Windows as well, and the terminal isn’t nearly so scary when you’re used to dealing with the Group Policy Editor and PowerShell. I can count the times I’ve had to boot into Windows since on my fingers, it’s definitely less than 10. One of the things I think I love most is that I can choose to postpone updates, or restarting for them, as long as I want without the computer thinking it knows better than me. I got shit to do, I’ll get there when I get there – and having Windows go “nuh-uh, you’re restarting now” pissed me the fuck off.

                                      Having said all that, I will freely admit and agree with you that a large portion of the Linux community is made up of elitist twats who will tell you to go read xyz instead of being in any way directly helpful. Nerds are not generally known for their social skills. However, it really doesn’t do anyone any favors to be needlessly inflammatory. If Windows works for you and you like it, great, I’m glad you’re happy with it. But there’s simply no reason to be so aggressive over Linux existing, especially now that it’s finally becoming tolerable even for former Linux-loathing users like me.

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                                      • O omega_jimes@lemmy.ca

                                        If all you do is game, outside of a few key games (Destiny 2, uhh,couple others) the experience on Linux is better for many folks.

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                                        serenesadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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                                        I do a lot more than that, so, hard pass.

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                                          What an extremely normal way to respond to this post

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                                          scienceguy722@lemmy.world
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