I have a question: I have learned that it was quite common in labor professions in Germany that the women would receive her husband's wages directly, was in control of the household finances, and would only give her husband some "drinking money" so tha...
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I have a question: I have learned that it was quite common in labor professions in Germany that the women would receive her husband's wages directly, was in control of the household finances, and would only give her husband some "drinking money" so that he would not spend everything on alcohol. This was true for both in the mining regions in the Harz mountains centuries ago and for Siemens workers in Erlangen in the post-WWII era.
So I would like to know if there have been any studies on this subject (i.e. women receiving the wages of their husbands and being in charge of the household finances):
- How common was this in both Germany and in other countries?
- For which professions, social groups, etc. was this particularly common or uncommon?
- How did this change over time, and what were the triggers for these changes? -
I have a question: I have learned that it was quite common in labor professions in Germany that the women would receive her husband's wages directly, was in control of the household finances, and would only give her husband some "drinking money" so that he would not spend everything on alcohol. This was true for both in the mining regions in the Harz mountains centuries ago and for Siemens workers in Erlangen in the post-WWII era.
So I would like to know if there have been any studies on this subject (i.e. women receiving the wages of their husbands and being in charge of the household finances):
- How common was this in both Germany and in other countries?
- For which professions, social groups, etc. was this particularly common or uncommon?
- How did this change over time, and what were the triggers for these changes?@juergen_hubert I think this was common in Japan also.
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I have a question: I have learned that it was quite common in labor professions in Germany that the women would receive her husband's wages directly, was in control of the household finances, and would only give her husband some "drinking money" so that he would not spend everything on alcohol. This was true for both in the mining regions in the Harz mountains centuries ago and for Siemens workers in Erlangen in the post-WWII era.
So I would like to know if there have been any studies on this subject (i.e. women receiving the wages of their husbands and being in charge of the household finances):
- How common was this in both Germany and in other countries?
- For which professions, social groups, etc. was this particularly common or uncommon?
- How did this change over time, and what were the triggers for these changes?@juergen_hubert As I learned it was common for many noble families the Austro-Hungarian empire in the 18-19th centuries. While the noble was away doing politics, travelling, fighting or doing whatever, it was many time his wife taking care of the estate's finaces including the high-level planning of the crops and livestock farming.
Example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kata_Bethlen
But it is also known from Ferenc Kölcsey writer (also a noble of that era), that his wife managed all material issues.
It's like men outsourcing the boring book-keeping and responsible thinking to their wife. I feel there is nothing feminist about it but quite the opposite.
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I have a question: I have learned that it was quite common in labor professions in Germany that the women would receive her husband's wages directly, was in control of the household finances, and would only give her husband some "drinking money" so that he would not spend everything on alcohol. This was true for both in the mining regions in the Harz mountains centuries ago and for Siemens workers in Erlangen in the post-WWII era.
So I would like to know if there have been any studies on this subject (i.e. women receiving the wages of their husbands and being in charge of the household finances):
- How common was this in both Germany and in other countries?
- For which professions, social groups, etc. was this particularly common or uncommon?
- How did this change over time, and what were the triggers for these changes?@juergen_hubert
Hypothesis :
It may be also linked to socio-economic level in some countries. The poorest, the more probable matriarcal based financial tasks are.(the need to be playful and to drink going up with the toughness of the job, and down with the level of education necessary for the job etc.)
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@juergen_hubert
Hypothesis :
It may be also linked to socio-economic level in some countries. The poorest, the more probable matriarcal based financial tasks are.(the need to be playful and to drink going up with the toughness of the job, and down with the level of education necessary for the job etc.)
Sounds reasonable. The higher the socio-economic status, the more the wives were pressured to only concern themselves with taking care of "the house and the children".
Heck, for a long time married women in Germany couldn't even open up a bank account without permission from their husbands.
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@juergen_hubert I think this was common in Japan also.
@isaackuo @juergen_hubert this is still common in Japan. And it is also still common in Japan that the women leave the labor market upon marriage.
Not statistical, but anecdotal: it seems like this arrangement is less likely to be practiced in families where the women remain employed. -
@isaackuo @juergen_hubert this is still common in Japan. And it is also still common in Japan that the women leave the labor market upon marriage.
Not statistical, but anecdotal: it seems like this arrangement is less likely to be practiced in families where the women remain employed.
