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  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

    MastodonM This user is from outside of this forum
    MastodonM This user is from outside of this forum
    Mastodon
    wrote last edited by
    #52

    @taylorlorenz let us know how we can help - we think a lot of people are pretty tired of having their data mined, conversations sold, and commercial companies injecting inauthentic content into their timelines. Maybe that’s just us? Happy to have a chat if it would be useful.

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    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

      Lookie LooW This user is from outside of this forum
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      Lookie Loo
      wrote last edited by
      #53

      @taylorlorenz
      This post right here:

      Al Sweigart (@AlSweigart@mastodon.social)

      It will never stop being funny to me that the whole "you can't trust Wikipedia because anyone can edit it" scare happened and now Wikipedia is the only trustworthy website because it turns out profit motive is the reason things turn to shit.

      favicon

      Mastodon (mastodon.social)

      Because Mastodon is lots of severable, community-edited, non-profits linked up.

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      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

        Jodsclass 🏴‍☠️☕J This user is from outside of this forum
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        Jodsclass 🏴‍☠️☕
        wrote last edited by
        #54

        For me, it’s the total lack of an algorithm as standard, and the fact that any individual or organisation can spin up an instance, making censorship that much harder, especially if hosted in a privacy respecting country.

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        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

          Lynn D 🇨🇦L This user is from outside of this forum
          Lynn D 🇨🇦L This user is from outside of this forum
          Lynn D 🇨🇦
          wrote last edited by
          #55

          @taylorlorenz no algorithm and no ads means that you get to see the posts from the people that you follow, not who The Algorithm dictates. You can also move to another instance if
          without losing your followers, and if your instance is federated, you can “talk” to all of the other federated instances (that last one is something that I have had to explain to several people who have somehow been given the impression that you can only connect with people on your own instance).

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          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

            Jonathan TJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jonathan TJ This user is from outside of this forum
            Jonathan T
            wrote last edited by
            #56

            @taylorlorenz At the risk of quoting a monstrous human being, "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

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            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

              TheZorseT This user is from outside of this forum
              TheZorseT This user is from outside of this forum
              TheZorse
              wrote last edited by
              #57

              @taylorlorenz

              While it can be used for commercial purposes, the control rests with people, not corporations. In that sense it's true social media, rather than a profit-making or power-manipulating enterprise disguised as something else.

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              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺M This user is from outside of this forum
                Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺M This user is from outside of this forum
                Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺
                wrote last edited by
                #58

                @taylorlorenz It *starts* with community (does not seek unsustainable growth, by default). Because hosts depend on the community to fund it, it can’t grow so big as to be exploited (limits to growth are useful to sustain meaningful community connections).

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                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                  sodiboo :pride_heart:S This user is from outside of this forum
                  sodiboo :pride_heart:S This user is from outside of this forum
                  sodiboo :pride_heart:
                  wrote last edited by
                  #59

                  @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social I think one aspect that can make it safer is the relatively small scale of each node in the network and the horizontal scaling of moderation. like, if there's something abhorrent that breaks my server's rules and I report it, then I know who will receive that report. I can talk to my instance moderators. and they're not moderating the entire network; just what reaches their instance. they need to do a lot less work to still deal with a significant chunk of abuse, compared to a monolithic social media platform.

                  additionally, I can choose which instance I trust to manage that responsibility and what rules I agree with. there's no single unilateral team deciding what you can and can't post on the fediverse; if I disagree with my instance moderation I can talk to them yes, but I can also
                  go somewhere else without having to find an entirely new platform with new faces. my new instance would let me access the same underlying network but a slightly different view of it with a slightly different vibe.

                  not everyone
                  will get along perfectly. a lot of people will want slightly different rules enforced on their social media platforms. decentralized moderation makes that possible.

                  personally, I host my own instance. this does mean that I've received more abuse than I ever did when someone else was moderating my exposure to trolls. but I've only really blocked about a dozen domains and after that it's fine? and now, I'm left with a place that is my own. this is the ultimate tool of free expression. nobody can tell me what I can or can't post (besides my hosting provider). this is just a thing you can do on fedi. become ungovernable. this isn't like "One Weird Trick To Have No Accountability": if I post anhorrent things or behave badly, I will get blocked on a large scale by many instances; but as long as I'm chill , I still get to use the same social network with the added bonus that
                  nobody can take my account away from me without warning. it's mine.

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                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                    softproofS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    softproof
                    wrote last edited by
                    #60

                    @taylorlorenz By proving to them that crowdsourcing can still beat AI-fluff, perhaps? And you're well on your way 👾

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                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                      PaulH This user is from outside of this forum
                      PaulH This user is from outside of this forum
                      Paul
                      wrote last edited by
                      #61

                      @taylorlorenz

                      No ads, no algorithm, admins who care (if you pick the right instance), a sense of community and control. You have it here, rather than the billionaires

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                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                        YourShadowDaniY This user is from outside of this forum
                        YourShadowDaniY This user is from outside of this forum
                        YourShadowDani
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                        #62

                        @taylorlorenz

                        On decentralized social media (like Mastodon) there's no Algorithm making sure you see the optimal toxic engagement bait.

                        All you get for posts is do people like it recently?

                        Its like the good old days before big tech had their Algorithms dialed in to make you as addicted as possible.

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                        • MastodonM Mastodon

                          @taylorlorenz let us know how we can help - we think a lot of people are pretty tired of having their data mined, conversations sold, and commercial companies injecting inauthentic content into their timelines. Maybe that’s just us? Happy to have a chat if it would be useful.

                          Giorgio PasqualiniG This user is from outside of this forum
                          Giorgio PasqualiniG This user is from outside of this forum
                          Giorgio Pasqualini
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                          #63

                          @Mastodon @taylorlorenz I think it is mostly used by european escaping from US tech, maybe like in reddit have posts be shown in the user language no matter what, like in reddit.

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                          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #64

                            @taylorlorenz I compare it to email, with how people or organizations control their own servers. Then ask what they think email would be like if one company controlled all of it. And how much they would charge.

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                            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                              💡𝚂𝗆𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝙰𝗉𝗉𝗌📱S This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #65

                              @taylorlorenz
                              - Community-driven, not profit-driven
                              - chose instance with rules that suit you
                              - the "for you" feed (list), that is actually made by you
                              - follow many other services/blogs from the one account (Pixelfed, Lemmy, etc.)

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                              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #66

                                @taylorlorenz we are in control- not the algorithms.
                                Other platforms thrive on conflict. Mastodon does not because people do not like it and it’s people who drive Mastodon timelines, not algorithms.

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                                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                  Movie2468
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                                  #67

                                  @taylorlorenz

                                  To answer this, we should first understand why people don’t think it makes sense. Someone I know that dislikes big business, and uses X said: “I struggle to understand the basics of a decentralized social network, it seems oxymoronic except for extreme nerds”.

                                  Take that as you will, but hopefully it is useful feedback.

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                                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                    GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                    #68

                                    @taylorlorenz

                                    The most concise way I describe the difference between commercial algorithm based platforms versus the fediverse.

                                    In the former, you are presented with the illusion of a town square, it propagates content based on spectacle and “engagement”

                                    In the latter, people are the algorithm as members of distinct communities, moderated by real people.

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                                    • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                      @taylorlorenz

                                      The most concise way I describe the difference between commercial algorithm based platforms versus the fediverse.

                                      In the former, you are presented with the illusion of a town square, it propagates content based on spectacle and “engagement”

                                      In the latter, people are the algorithm as members of distinct communities, moderated by real people.

                                      1/2

                                      GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                      #69

                                      @taylorlorenz

                                      Centralized, commercial and algorithm based platforms are centralized command and control platforms.

                                      The fediverse is a constellation of everything from individually hosted servers to the larger instances like mastodon dot social, and everything in between.

                                      I would ask people to consider where do you think the greater liberty resides?

                                      We have seen the kind of censorship that emerges on all of the large commercial platforms. It’s not possible in the fediverse.

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                                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                        Raymond RussellR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Raymond RussellR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Raymond Russell
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #70

                                        @taylorlorenz
                                        Its nice Twitter.
                                        No adverts or algorithm.
                                        No one owns it.
                                        It's like lots of mini Twitters that can talk to each other.
                                        Each mini Twitter has its own rules and interests.
                                        You should join the one that best suits you.

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                                        • M Movie2468

                                          @taylorlorenz

                                          To answer this, we should first understand why people don’t think it makes sense. Someone I know that dislikes big business, and uses X said: “I struggle to understand the basics of a decentralized social network, it seems oxymoronic except for extreme nerds”.

                                          Take that as you will, but hopefully it is useful feedback.

                                          GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                          #71

                                          @Movie2468 @taylorlorenz

                                          I would like to suggest then that they struggled to understand a market based economy or democracy

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