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  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

    DaveyD This user is from outside of this forum
    DaveyD This user is from outside of this forum
    Davey
    wrote last edited by
    #187

    @taylorlorenz some points

    You aren't being manipulated by the platform or coerced into impulsive behaviour, although you can still trap yourself into it.

    It's often a bit of a mess but it's "our mess", the sense of ownership has some legitimacy.

    It only dies when people don't want it any more, not when investors want their payday.

    The "low virality" means anyone is as big a deal as anyone else.

    It's slower, but it's also more relaxed.

    Being bad for marketing has its upside.

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    • Lien RagL Lien Rag

      @futurebird

      Apparently the mastodon team at FOSDEM had a really killer slogan for promoting the Fediverse : "My friends are not for sale".
      Mic drop, really - what more is there to say ?

      (though, depending on the audience, "Seize the memes of production, join the fediverse !" can land well too)

      @taylorlorenz

      AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
      AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
      AJ Sadauskas
      wrote last edited by
      #188

      @futurebird @taylorlorenz @lienrag I'd separate out what the benefits of the Fediverse are from what it is. Because they're not necessarily the same thing.

      The benefit of the Fediverse is there's no paid ads, and no boosted posts.

      A benefit of the Fedi is there's very little corporate spam.

      A benefit is the lack of AI slop.

      A benefit is that you are more likely to be reading and responding to actual people.

      A benefit is that it's community owned, rather than owned by a big tech conglomerate.

      A benefit is that it exists primarily as s space to facilitate discussions, rather than sell advertising.

      A benefit is that there's no algorithm that's highlighting the most controversial and hateful content in a bid to maximise viewership.

      All of those /benefits/ flow from what the Fediverse is.

      And what it is, is a network of self-moderated online communities. What you post on one community is visible on all the others.

      Now what that means is there's no single individual or corporation that owns it.

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      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

        Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
        Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
        Gaëtan Perrault
        wrote last edited by
        #189

        @taylorlorenz

        I tried to answer your two core questions, "benefits" and "freedom", but really struggled to answer the questions as you posed them. I think the reason I got caught up on those answers is your use of the word "Platform". And when the general public think of "Platform", they immediately begin thinking of all those monolithic platforms out there.

        Calling it "decentralized" doesn't really help. It's not a particularly precise term, nor do most people really understand the technical and social trade-offs that it implies. And "most people" includes a lot of people on Mastodon itself.

        And we regularly see people who are disappointed when they get here, because they are expecting Twitter and they are getting something significantly different.

        I think I can answer your two questions, next toot, but I think they need to be framed correctly first... /1

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        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

          Mike_VM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike_VM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike_V
          wrote last edited by
          #190

          @taylorlorenz - On the fediverse, you're not the product. The sucker product.

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          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

            Keeper of the orbH This user is from outside of this forum
            Keeper of the orbH This user is from outside of this forum
            Keeper of the orb
            wrote last edited by
            #191

            @taylorlorenz you really have total control over what you see from others as well as what others see from you. and if a server is closing, or you just arent loving it there, you can literally import your follows blocks etc to a different one.

            also theres a lot of academics and audhd folk on here so the knowledge base is deep and passionate on any random subject. clam science! pinball repair! mutual aid! cooperatives!

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            • Gaëtan PerraultG Gaëtan Perrault

              @taylorlorenz

              I tried to answer your two core questions, "benefits" and "freedom", but really struggled to answer the questions as you posed them. I think the reason I got caught up on those answers is your use of the word "Platform". And when the general public think of "Platform", they immediately begin thinking of all those monolithic platforms out there.

              Calling it "decentralized" doesn't really help. It's not a particularly precise term, nor do most people really understand the technical and social trade-offs that it implies. And "most people" includes a lot of people on Mastodon itself.

              And we regularly see people who are disappointed when they get here, because they are expecting Twitter and they are getting something significantly different.

              I think I can answer your two questions, next toot, but I think they need to be framed correctly first... /1

              Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
              Gaëtan PerraultG This user is from outside of this forum
              Gaëtan Perrault
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              #192

              @taylorlorenz

              What is Mastodon?

              Mastodon is a miniature version of Twitter that anyone can host for themselves. You can host a copy for your friends, or a group of people get together and host a copy for their city or interest group or community.

              What's special about Mastodon is that each of these miniature Twitters can talk to each other. So you can talk to people in other places from anywhere.

              Benefits

              When you sign up for an account, you are now a member of that community. You are not a User being fed an algorithm, you are a Member who gets to decide what you read and who you connect with.

              Freedom

              Because this is just software being run on your behalf, you are not beholden to the whims of some giant corporation. You and your community members are free to make your own community rules, to decide who you talk to. If you, personally, don't like some rule change, you can move to another community, or even start your own. You control big decisions. //

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              • Keeper of the orbH Keeper of the orb

                @taylorlorenz you really have total control over what you see from others as well as what others see from you. and if a server is closing, or you just arent loving it there, you can literally import your follows blocks etc to a different one.

                also theres a lot of academics and audhd folk on here so the knowledge base is deep and passionate on any random subject. clam science! pinball repair! mutual aid! cooperatives!

                Keeper of the orbH This user is from outside of this forum
                Keeper of the orbH This user is from outside of this forum
                Keeper of the orb
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                #193

                @taylorlorenz oh also you can turn OFF displaying numeric data on your profile and posts. never fixate on your follower digits unhealthily again!

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                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                  utopiArteU This user is from outside of this forum
                  utopiArteU This user is from outside of this forum
                  utopiArte
                  wrote last edited by
                  #194

                  @taylorlorenz

                  Decentralized free open source guarenties censorship resistance and prevents #enshitification by design. That's what the internet was about in the first place.

                  If you only focus on #mastodon you miss the bigger picture. What happened and happens on twitter is just the tip of the iceberg.

                  The fediVerse puts people back into the drivers seat.

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                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                    Tim ChambersT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Tim ChambersT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Tim Chambers
                    wrote last edited by
                    #195

                    @taylorlorenz The open social web brings the same benefit the open web once did: nobody owns it, so nobody can take it away. On centralized platforms, your speech exists at the pleasure of a private entity's business model — they can change the rules, throttle your reach, or shut you down overnight. The fediverse puts that power back in your hands: you own your presence, you choose and build your own community with no intermediaries, and no single entity can pull the plug on you, or them.

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                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                      Tom RobertsT This user is from outside of this forum
                      Tom RobertsT This user is from outside of this forum
                      Tom Roberts
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                      #196

                      @taylorlorenz

                      I reckon the federated nature allows each instance to balance the social media aspects appropriately:
                      - funding
                      - moderation
                      - connectivity

                      These are all determined instance by instance.

                      So if one finds a good instance that supports their style, and contributes $ to its upkeep, then it will provide everything one could want.

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                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                        JaneishlyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        JaneishlyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Janeishly
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                        #197

                        @taylorlorenz Billionaires don't own it, and they never can.

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                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                          Die Kehrseite zu OsternD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Die Kehrseite zu OsternD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Die Kehrseite zu Ostern
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                          #198

                          @taylorlorenz the fediverse feels like the neighborhood of better days. When you ask for help, you get it. When you need support, you get it. You can share and discuss your thoughts, learn and improve. This is media becoming social. This is how it should be.
                          Community not business. This is the real thing.

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                          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                            Ehay2kE This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ehay2kE This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ehay2k
                            wrote last edited by
                            #199

                            @taylorlorenz

                            It takes more work on Mastodon to find what you want, but it's not actually hard. You just don't spoon fed similar things once you view a category of content.

                            And once you get going, you will get the information you want in your feed, and are always free to explore to find (and instantly add) new content/interests.

                            But NO SINGLE ENTITY controls your content.

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                            • Ehay2kE Ehay2k

                              @taylorlorenz

                              It takes more work on Mastodon to find what you want, but it's not actually hard. You just don't spoon fed similar things once you view a category of content.

                              And once you get going, you will get the information you want in your feed, and are always free to explore to find (and instantly add) new content/interests.

                              But NO SINGLE ENTITY controls your content.

                              M.M This user is from outside of this forum
                              M.M This user is from outside of this forum
                              M.
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                              #200

                              @Ehay2k @taylorlorenz

                              Mirrors exactly my experience!

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                              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Ginette Dincar
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                                #201

                                @taylorlorenz
                                No American (or other) CEOs, nor algorithms, to tell you what to think !

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                                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                  Data QuineS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Data QuineS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Data Quine
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #202

                                  @taylorlorenz
                                  * it's easier to "find your tribe" of people sharing common interests or geography - broad by server, narrow by following hashtags.
                                  * Can only speak personally, as a woman I''ve experienced by far the least harassment/spam on Mastodon of any platforms and any abusive accounts reported have been dealt with very promptly. Feels 'safer' than other platforms.

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                                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                    Jorge CandeiasJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jorge CandeiasJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jorge Candeias
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                                    #203

                                    @taylorlorenz Well, for me it's quite simple, really.

                                    On other networks, I feel manipulated by algorythms that may or may not have hidden agendas (but somehow it seems to me they always end up having them, sooner or later).

                                    Here, I don't.

                                    And that's absolutely freeing.

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      @benroyce @taylorlorenz

                                      Depending on the audience you could also mention the ants? Or don't it's fine.

                                      Mastodon MigrationM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mastodon MigrationM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mastodon Migration
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                                      #204

                                      @futurebird @benroyce @taylorlorenz

                                      Ants are a big selling point.

                                      Don't forget ants 🐜 .

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                                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                        robotbrainR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        robotbrainR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        robotbrain
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #205

                                        @taylorlorenz Social media is too important to leave in the hands of one of the billionaire assholes that can shadowban or kick you off with a whim if you annoy them or go against one of their pet causes.

                                        There's no black box algorithm that the billionaires can nudge to affect your thinking or mood (as Facebook admitted experimenting on us with)

                                        You're not held hostage to network effects after enshittification.

                                        They're not trying to monetize your outrage and misinformation.

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                                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                          GoNancyGoN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          GoNancyGo
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #206

                                          @taylorlorenz As an American it is safer for me, also I get to see more of the world than just U.S.

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