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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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    wrote last edited by
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    @briankrebs not even sure of all the fediverse accounts I have used, much less all social media. I played with dozens when Elon bought Twitter.

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    • Rob BosR Rob Bos

      @ericphelps
      Tagged email addresses accomplish much the same thing!

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      wrote last edited by
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      @rbos I pre-generated a thousand email addresses, registered them with my email provider, and loaded them into my password manager. They're ready to go for new accounts with a simple rename.

      The whole "tagging" thing with Gmail is one of those theoretical things I know about but have never done.

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        @Npars01 @briankrebs
        My reflex was Peter Thiel, but yes, amongst the bunch of them.

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        • Otmar LendlO Otmar Lendl

          @briankrebs just cancel the Olympics and the FIFA World Cup as the next step.

          I will not travel to the US in 2026 just as sure as I would not recommend time travel to Germany 1936 to a jew.

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          #243

          @otmar @briankrebs

          Somehow the Olympics and FIFA like dictators...

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

            favicon

            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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            wrote last edited by
            #244

            @briankrebs
            'back in the ussr' beatles

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            • AnneHA AnneH

              @briankrebs In EU countries, it wouldn't be legal to give out family members' details if they didn't consent I think.

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              @annehargreaves @briankrebs
              They (& every other country) should make an exception for Americans & apply the same rules to all American travellers... to the Rest of the World.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Link Preview Image
                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                favicon

                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                #246

                @briankrebs So, basically, they don't want any visitors, any international witnesses or observers, for whatever they have planned for us, after they lock us all in?!?

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                • schrotthaufenS schrotthaufen

                  @briankrebs The business emails sure make for a neat way to identify high value targets🙊

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                  #247

                  @schrotthaufen @briankrebs
                  And that is the point.
                  This isn't about immigration or terror threats, it is ALL about economic advantage.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #248

                    @briankrebs I used to go to the US most years, the last time was about 2018. Visited a senior manager who worked in a block overlooking the Whitehouse. On arriving at work each day she went to the window with middle finger up and shouted Fuck You. Colleagues were not all in agreement at the time...
                    I will not go again. Even if the orange despot in imprisoned, now we know a nazi revolution can happen there almost overnight.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                      favicon

                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #249

                      @briankrebs Who knows what malware will be embedded in the app to provide real time spying.

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                      • KevinOnEarthQ KevinOnEarth

                        @schrotthaufen @briankrebs
                        And that is the point.
                        This isn't about immigration or terror threats, it is ALL about economic advantage.

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                        @Quantillion @briankrebs Well… I’d say it is about terror threats. By the US of A towards anyone who wants to set foot on their soil.

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                        • Oliver SchafeldO Oliver Schafeld

                          Side note:

                          »Sepp Blatter suggests fans should not travel to #US for World Cup
                          Ex-#Fifa boss shows support for #boycott calls«

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                          The former Fifa president backed a Swiss lawyer who called for a boycott of the tournament due to security concerns in the US

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                          the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

                          https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2026/01/26/former-fifa-president-sepp-blatter-fans-usa-world-cup/88361864007/

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                          wrote last edited by
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                          @oliver_schafeld
                          I never would have believed I might one day agree with Sepp Blatter about anything!!😮

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            @farbel Did you try to send to cbp_pra@cbp.dhs.gov? Did you get a bounce?

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                            @briankrebs Aha. With lower case it went through. Next time I go back to the States, I imagine I will be questioned.

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                            • csC cs

                              @briankrebs I could not with any confidence give anyone all the emails I have used last two or three years.

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                              #253

                              @cs @briankrebs
                              I'll happily give them my last gmail, as, last time I looked (years ago), it was full of 999 spam mails.

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                Link Preview Image
                                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                favicon

                                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #254

                                @briankrebs A plea to the world, don't travel here. Be safe.

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                  favicon

                                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #255

                                  @briankrebs I assume they want to be some competition for North Korea.

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                                  • mkjM mkj

                                    @CaptMorgan How in the world would using a burner phone help with any of this?

                                    @briankrebs

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                                    @mkj @briankrebs I thought the post was about installing a spy app on your phone. So if its a burner phone, its not your “real” phone. You only share information you want to share

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                                    • Kim Possible :kimoji_fire:K Kim Possible :kimoji_fire:

                                      @briankrebs So, basically, they don't want any visitors, any international witnesses or observers, for whatever they have planned for us, after they lock us all in?!?

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                                      wrote last edited by
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                                      @kimlockhartga @briankrebs

                                      It seems there's _always_ something else at play, some other 'plan' underneath and behind whatever it is that's stated at face value, so this makes sense in that context.

                                      Being in control isn't one directional, it's about every direction all at once, and when there's a built-in byproduct in some 'new rule' to guarantee even more control, they'll use it, exploit it, and look for another dozen offshoots to cement even more control.

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                                      • Shiitake ToastS Shiitake Toast

                                        @briankrebs I wish people understood how important the Federal Register is to how law is made. The government has to consider comments and if they fail to consider them seriously you can sue to block a regulation. The more people who comment with serious objections to a rule, the harder it is for the government to implement that rule. It’s an under appreciated avenue for direct democracy and direct action. If there’s an issue you care about, you can follow that on the FR

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #258

                                        @briankrebs @ShiitakeToast

                                        Sure, but we can all see that this administration completely ignores the law.

                                        Of course, people should submit their concerns.

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                                        • Oliver JensenO Oliver Jensen

                                          @briankrebs

                                          as someone who has been using unique email addresses for every service, I look forward to submitting several hundred addresses.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #259

                                          @briankrebs @ojensen as someone who has no intention of entering the US under the current administration or any semblance of it, I too look forward to... checks notes... submitting 658 active email addresses

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