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Canada rescinds Digital Services Tax after Trump cuts off U.S. trade talks

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  • Daniel QuinnD Daniel Quinn

    You voted for Liberals. Their only persistent trait is lying to the public about who they are and then siding with big business once elected.

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    yeehaw
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    And I don’t think cons would have been any better.

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      And I don’t think cons would have been any better.

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      Daniel Quinn
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      Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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      • E enkers

        That’s what I said after they fucked us on electoral reform. Being a principled voter is the correct pragmatic decision in the long term.

        ABC results in US two-party system.

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        #44

        ABC results in voting NDP and sometimes Green, Animal Liberation, etc. but not CPC or LPC.

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          Swordgeek
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          FUUUUUUUUCK!!!

          Stop bending! Stop caving! Stop acquiescing to the fucking deranged dictator baboon running the shit show down south!

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          • C yeehaw

            This is not what I voted for. What the fuck?

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            john_lemmy@slrpnk.net
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            You can’t really stand up to power by voting, unfortunately. All your choices are just different ways of giving these jackals power with more or fewer steps.

            I hope there are local groups and organizations where you’re at that you can join to start to organize a grassroots movement.

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            • Daniel QuinnD Daniel Quinn

              Why do people constantly bring this up as if it was a valid argument? Of course the Conservatives wouldn’t have been better. No one is saying that they would have. FFS you have other options.

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              floofloof@lemmy.ca
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              It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

              That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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                unclegrandpa@lemmy.world
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                Never ever ever attempt to appease trump.

                It will not work. He will never admit when he is wrong

                And he is totally untrustworthy and will NOT keep his side of any deal

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                • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                  It’s hard to vote in a principled way knowing that it will lead to one more Conservative MP. We are in a bind with this electoral system, and of course the Liberals benefit most from it so will never change it.

                  That said, if the Liberals keep acting enough like Conservatives that people don’t see a significant difference between their policies, it could undermine strategic voting and open the door to other parties.

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                  Daniel Quinn
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                  Exactly this. I came to this conclusion a long time ago, so I guess it’s nice to see others coming around to it.

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                  • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                    Supply management on dairy. The yanks have hated that for a while, but there’s a bunch of Quebecois dairy farmers who really like it. I’m guessing that Carney is giving up the DST since it doesn’t have a constituency - if that allows him to keep supply management on dairy, it’ll be easier to keep Quebec’s support during the next election.

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                    Concetta
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                    It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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                      candid_andy@lemmy.ca
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                      Lose a battle to win a war.

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                        It’s not only Quebecois who don’t want American Dairy. Sask here, we better not drop those fucking dairy tariffs.

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                        sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                        From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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                        • candid_andy@lemmy.caC candid_andy@lemmy.ca

                          Lose a battle to win a war.

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                          radiofreebc@lemmy.world
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                          Canada is just calling the US’s bluff, because it’s not actually about the DST. Now Canada has proof they’re negotiating in good faith with an admin that couldn’t care less about honouring deals.

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                          • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                            From what I’ve seen, Canada’s agriculture sectors have had a rough time over the past few decades: production is consolidating into a handful of players, profit margins are sinking, while those further up the supply chain seem to be enjoying most of the profits (and prices for the consumer aren’t improving). Dairy farmers have done really well compared to their peers in other sectors. I’m okay paying a bit more for dairy if it keeps them doing well.

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                            Concetta
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                            It’s not even a matter of paying more for dairy, we would not have dairy farmers if we allowed American Dairy to flood our borders. https://youtu.be/PjBdZPnaDfc they literally have a massive underground facility because of the amount of cheese they overproduce.

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                              ABC results in voting NDP and sometimes Green, Animal Liberation, etc. but not CPC or LPC.

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                              enkers
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                              Maybe in theory, but liberals never reciprocate. We gave up multiple incumbent ridings to the Conservatives because people voted for Carney instead of the incumbent NDP, who were IMO better candidates.

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                              • W walktheplank@lemmy.world

                                The explanation is money. Now let’s stop this shit. Time to get organized. Start or join a protest group. Let’s not wait until it’s too late like south of us.

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                                neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works
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                                This is the way

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                                  periodicallypedantic@lemmy.ca
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                                  FFS

                                  If you give him an inch, he’ll take a mile

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                                  • L lembot_0004@discuss.online

                                    Listen, Canadians, you don’t need those tariffs-shmariffs. Just stop buying US shit. That’s it. No matter if that is alcohol or software. Stop buying it. And tariffs become just a stupid number for stupid Trump to drool upon.

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                                    jhex@lemmy.world
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                                    another dummy who does not understand how tariffs work or who pays them

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                                    • R radiofreebc@lemmy.world

                                      Canada is just calling the US’s bluff, because it’s not actually about the DST. Now Canada has proof they’re negotiating in good faith with an admin that couldn’t care less about honouring deals.

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                                      jhex@lemmy.world
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                                      lol like we needed proof trumpeisall bad faith and ignorance… we are literally re negotiating the very trade aggreement trump signed 5 years ago and unilaterally tore

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                                      • C yeehaw

                                        PP didn’t seem like a good choice to me. And there was no way any other party had a shot.

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                                        masterofn001
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                                        Because we’re always told they don’t have a shot.

                                        But, let’s just say, as of today, nobody votes liberal again. It would likely be the party that also gave use universal healthcare to at least take a minority.

                                        No more vote splitting.

                                        The only party that is remotely aligned with the people is the NDP. (And some greens.)

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                                          blametheantifa@lemmy.world
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                                          Why!? You aren’t going to beat TACO with CACO, for heaven’s sake.

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