Pollievre will do tax cuts, deregulation and austerity while keeping us distracted with 24/7 idiotic conservative culture wars. Carney is doing tax cuts, deregulation and austerity while keeping us distracted with the promise of “nation building projects” that will never materialize. Either way it’s tax cuts, deregulation and austerity. The only difference is the type lies they’re telling to distract us.

The Americans have third parties too. And just like in America, voting third party in Canada usually acts as a “spoiler” that helps out a party that doesn’t align ideologically with the voter who’s casting their protest vote. You have to vote strategically in each riding to make your vote actually accomplish something and that usually comes down to a choice between Liberal and Conservative.

Thanks, first-past-the-post.

Please do not turn our multi-party democracy into an America-style duopoly with your “strategic voting”. All it’s done is turn our elections into another Red-vs-Blue nightmare where both parties have the same policies and are only differentiated by culture wars.

It’s not my decision, unfortunately. It’s a structural feature that’s inherent in first-past-the-post voting. If you don’t vote strategically then you are “throwing your vote away” whether you believe it or not.

Canada’s been fortunate in having some ridings where a national “third party” was locally the strategic one to vote for. I myself was fortunate to be able to vote NDP last election, my riding was one of the few where the two leading candidates were NDP and Conservative rather than Liberal and Conservative. Same went for some Bloc voters in Quebec, presumably. But look at the history of Canadian elections, it’s a two-party system in all but name. The times where it wasn’t ultimately a question of “Liberal or Conservative?” Were rare aberrations, and even in those rare cases where there was a viable third party candidate they still only made it as far as opposition.

I would very much like to change that. I consider Trudeau’s greatest betrayal to be how he reneged on electoral reform, and I suspect it will be seen as Canada’s last lost opportunity to avoid an American-style future fate. But just because I don’t like it doesn’t mean I can’t recognize the actual situation we’re facing.

Not true, PP would also be directly and purposefully eroding minority rights and be attacking the vulnerable. Carney is at least leaving them alone. As a minority that is being directly targeted in the states right now I am really happy to be in Canada with a PM that isn’t spreading active hate towards me right now. Instead I live in a province where that’s happening. I will take only one level of government hating me.

I think we need an actual left-of-centre party. The NDP is just a right-of-centre party who support some minor social programs as long as they don’t interfere too much with extracting money via capitalism. I’m not looking for a socially progressive right-of-centre party. I want to see an actual left-of-centre party. A party that would nationalise our resources and use the proceeds to fund centralised housing, healthcare, education, parks and recreation spaces, infrastructure, and other things that people need and enjoy. A party that wants to improve labour standards and invest in ourselves, and move away from US style capitalism. It can be done.

True, it’s like a hostage situation. Conservatives threaten to harm trans kids, or immigrants or whatever, and Liberals say “you’ll have the vote for us if you want $(minority group) to live, but don’t worry, you can vote your conscience next election”, then never do anything to actually protect those minority groups in law, so the cycle repeats next election.

Liberals will never give real protection to vulnerable people because they want them to be constantly under threat of the Conservatives to keep the left from voting for the actual left-wing parties that WOULD give those groups protection that isn’t subject to the whims of whatever party is in charge. Diabolical.

Counter-tariffs just raise prices here. They were a terrible idea to start with, just like tariffs are in general. The digital services tax was on its way out even before Trump was elected. China likes kicking people when they’re down so we got restrictions on ag products just to twist the knife.

Plenty of reasons to be pissed off with the Liberals, but those aren’t some of them.

Recognizing a Palestinian state won’t stop the war but it’s an important step.

It would be an important step within a context of action, but when the context is unchanged complicity it’s hard to see it as anything but a smokescreen.

There is nothing else Canada can do anyways.

Boycott, Divest, Sanction moment. Other than that, send the navy to escort their activists going on a humanitarian mission in international waters. Should the Canadian government not be protecting its citizens?

Canadian imports and exports are an absolutely massive ship to change course -especially when a lot of private contracts are years into the future. That said, we are already trading a lot more with pretty much everyone except the US.

How Canada’s imports and exports have changed since Trump | CBC News

CBC News tracks how trade between Canada and other countries has changed since Donald Trump came back to power.

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Counter-tariffs just raise prices here. They were a terrible idea to start with, just like tariffs are in general

No they aren’t, blanket tariffs the way Trump is doing it is stupid, but counter-tariffs on American products that can be replaced with made-in-Canada products works and helps keep jobs in Canada.

The digital services tax was on its way out even before Trump was elected

This is also wrong… the Digital Services tax was introduced as a Liberal priority all the way back in 2020 and passed in 2024. It probably would have been repealed by Pollievre if he won, but Liberals repealing their own years-in-the-making policy, a day before going into effect as an act of appeasement to Donald Trump was definitely not inevitable.

China likes kicking people when they’re down so we got restrictions on ag products just to twist the knife.

Their tariffs on us are counter-tariffs in response to us imposing a 100% tax on Chinese-made solar panels.

counter-tariffs on American products that can be replaced with made-in-Canada products works and helps keep jobs in Canada.

Well, you and I and most economists will have to disagree about how tariffs “work”. The local industries they were supposedly protecting either don’t exist or actively dislike tariffs that are supposed to help them. Because a falling tide sinks all boats. Tariffs are inflationary, end of message.

Repealing or delaying the DST was part of the OECD treaty obligations that most of the other countries involved had been doing since it was set up in 2021 with the revamping of the multinational tax treaties. Maybe Trump’s bullshit was the nail in the coffin, but it sure wasn’t the first and they just followed the other 140 countries involved that shut that down last year if they even still had them.

And solar panels have had the 165% tariff (not 100%) from China on them since sometime in the mid teens (https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/sima-lmsi/mif-mev/sml-eng.html) and we see the incredible effect that has had on the growth of our burgeoning home-grown solar panels industry in Canada, have we not? Because tariffs work, amirite? I hate this tariff with a passion because I’m entirely offgrid and have tried to jump through all the hoops to get my panels at the prices I see on Alibaba, but they aren’t going anywhere because China subsidizes their panels so heavily.

There are no Canadian-made panels because we don’t tariff the panels coming in from the US and other Asian countries. Only China is singled out because Canada is playing second fiddle on the US’s new cold war strategy against China - sucks that we aren’t a sovereign country that can make our own policies and forge relationships with whatever country we want, but it is what it is. 51st state, baby!

Wow I haven’t seen this, it’s put together really well. Great to see those numbers!

We have 4 major parties. BC only care about quebec npd was destroyed in the last election. We sre not in the same situation as the USA

He could stop lying about the selling of arm to israel, he can do a both way arm ambargo and impose sanctions on the state of israel. He should apologize about saying that a palestinian state need to be a zionist palestine. He could acknowledge the genocide and stop pretending. He should take action on the people who was selling land of occupied west bank in synagogues

He literally said he want Palestinian to accept Zionism the supremacist ideology that caused the whole mess

You think we are fools aren’t you. Zionism is very clear you can just check the writing of Herzl and Zionist leaders to know what it is . Caney can’t just invent another definition.

He said that Palestinians should accept Israel but we should all know that it is Israel that is the settler colonial power who occupied Palestinians land and ethnically cleansing them multiple time. Israel couldn’t have been created without mass displacements because jews only owned 5% to 8% of land and was geographically dispersed.

He talk about how Palestinians should behave to get their states while Canada was quickly recognizing Israel after the Nekba and the multiple Zionist terrorist operations

Trump won because Americans was fooled by his promise of fixing the economy and Carney will lose for the same reason next time and like in the USA they will be people who claim that Palestine is the reason he lost and the other side with complain about how anti occupation people are the reason Carney lose

NDP is not a right wing party