Trump mocks trans folks to prime minister with nonbinary kid
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VERY BAD!!!
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Nah, children can’t consent, so that’s rape.
(that’s the joke)
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How? I found it cringe. He doesn’t even have to interject but he could at least not do this act of listening intently to him while he speaks nonsense as if he were giving a high level lecture. It feels like performative kowtowing in hopes that Trump will reward him for it… which he will not.
Huh, I think you’ve fell victim of confirmation bias in this case.
Which is truly the ceinge position to be in.
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Huh, I think you’ve fell victim of confirmation bias in this case.
Which is truly the ceinge position to be in.
It’s about not having the mindset of someone lives in the 51st State and instead lives in a sovereign, equal nation to the US. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that Mark Carney should bow down to Trump and nod along to everything he says, no matter how bigoted or indefensible, which is the implicit mindset of someone who sees their country as weaker, inferior one to the US.
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It’s about not having the mindset of someone lives in the 51st State and instead lives in a sovereign, equal nation to the US. A lot of people in this thread seem to think that Mark Carney should bow down to Trump and nod along to everything he says, no matter how bigoted or indefensible, which is the implicit mindset of someone who sees their country as weaker, inferior one to the US.
It seems like you have some issues reading the situation.
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You know, if we stopped pretending there were only 2 parties in Canada we could actually get away from the lib/con bullshit and have a healthy multi party parliament.
You won’t find an argument here
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Never said such a thing. I can dislike our Liberal PM without being a con idiot. This is not a what about moment but lots of my fellow countrymen choose to make it so. Very murica of you all. Guess we’ll get fascism too while you all judge.
You’re so angry.
… And I’m not sure I follow your point.
People are making it a what?
How did you take the leap from Carney not standing up to Trump about trans people to straight up fascism?
I’m more confused than anything.
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I hate that Canada has devolved into a two-party state.
I’m with you. The whole strategic voting thing… Even I’ve been victim of it and it was no more obvious than in the last election.
A lot of people voted liberal because they wanted to shut out the conservatives, and liberal votes had the best chance of doing that.
The problem is organization and agreement.
If we all agree to drop the strategic voting and just go with who we actually want, for a single election, I’m sure things would massively change. The trick is, getting everyone to agree on anything.
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ill prefer made in canada, and be fine with ‘not american’
That’s pretty much me too.
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How is that a disagreement?
You made an assertion about his motivations, and I think his motivations are different.
Did that not come across?
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If only Carney was a good politican who had helped Canada in literally any way since taking office. At least he sorta looks good in comparison to a dementia riddled fascist, I guess. Fascists will see this as Canada bowing to the king.
This is exactly it. Carney was (willingly!) used here by Trump as a prop to normalise fascism.
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I’m not liking his performance to date, but this sounds like astroturfing.
Carney laughed when Trump “joked” about murdering fishing boat crews
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You made an assertion about his motivations, and I think his motivations are different.
Did that not come across?
You said he was just letting him be crazy in peace because arguing is pointless, I said he’s tolerating him. I think we both agree it’s for the sake of trying to achieve an acceptable deal for Canada, right?
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President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.
The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”
The people criticizing Carney for not arguing with Trump have obviously never had the experience of arguing with a dementia ridden relative.
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Carney has already proven that he is incapable of actually standing up to Trump, so this doesn’t surprise me. If he isn’t willing to stick up for his own kid, how can we expect him to stick up for the rest of us?
how can we expect him to stick up for the rest of us?
The key take away is that we’ve been divided into groups and a lot of Canadians already don’t think our current government is sticking up for them.
I support quite a few Liberal policies but at the same time absolutely despise certain others, I make that very clear on Lemmy, the same goes with Conservatives I support a few of their policies but despise certain others. There is no winning with the two party system.
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how can we expect him to stick up for the rest of us?
The key take away is that we’ve been divided into groups and a lot of Canadians already don’t think our current government is sticking up for them.
I support quite a few Liberal policies but at the same time absolutely despise certain others, I make that very clear on Lemmy, the same goes with Conservatives I support a few of their policies but despise certain others. There is no winning with the two party system.
My biggest problem with what Carney has been doing, is that I voted for him this time. I voted for him because I didn’t want Conservative domestic policies to be implemented in response to Trump’s tariffs…and I didn’t want a Conservative strategy for dealing with Trump himself.
Now, we’re watching Carney doing literally everything that I explicitly didn’t vote for. It’s like we voted for Carney…but what we got, was Pierre Poilievre wearing a Carney suit. This has been the biggest bait and switch in Canadian politics, that I’ve got very seen. It feels like fraud.
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President Donald Trump mocked transgender people in front of Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, whose child identifies as nonbinary, during an Oval Office meeting in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday that was intended to focus on trade relations but instead became a showcase of Trump’s familiar culture war politics.
The meeting, held in the presence of reporters, aimed to emphasize renewed cooperation between the two countries, which remain deeply economically intertwined. But as The Independent reported, it “devolved into a political rally disguised as a routine press availability.” Trump repeatedly veered off topic to attack Democrats, the media, and transgender people, boasting that under his leadership, “We have strong borders. We have no men in women’s sports. We’re not going to take your child away and change the sex of your child.”
Normally, when somebody becomes more idiot, he gets less attention. That’s how we do it in Europe. Waiting for the Americans to come alongside
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You think that would stop him?
Would? This guy is mentioned more times than many can count in the Epstein Files.
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I hate that he’s better than the alternative
I hate seeing us becoming more of a two party system
we need voting reform
We need viable candidates.
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I’m just surprised that people think Carney, our prime minister, should antagonize Trump, who is currently master and chief of one of the largest, if not the largest military force in the world, over his stance on trans people. And to do it when he’s there for trade talks.
I’m just surprised that people think that Carney sitting there and refusing to engage in Trump’s bullshit, when the purpose of his visit is to negotiate trade on behalf of our entire country.
I’m not sure why anyone thinks Carney’s priority should be arguing with Trump over trans people, when we currently have a trade war going on, that can easily devolve into an actual war…
I’m surprised at the amount of people I’ve seen telling us regular average Joe Americans we need to fight back, exercise our 2A rights, do more than “just protest”, but then when their politicians have a chance to actually take a stand against American fascism but flop over like a wet noodle instead, they go “but but but, Amewica scawy :(”