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  • UlrichU Ulrich

    the reality is that GN would need a YT channel to be commercially viable,

    How did you arrive at this “reality”?

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    Agent Karyo
    wrote on last edited by
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    I am on the Threadiverse, so it is a reasonable assumption that I use the internet…

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    • Agent KaryoA Agent Karyo

      I am on the Threadiverse, so it is a reasonable assumption that I use the internet…

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      Ulrich
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      “I use the internet” explains absolutely nothing.

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      • UlrichU Ulrich

        “I use the internet” explains absolutely nothing.

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        Agent Karyo
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        It was a joke. You can’t seriously think that PeerTube is viable alternative to YT (as a sole distribution channel).

        I say this as someone who does use PeerTube for a few content creators that mirror from YT.

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        • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

          Hyperbolic title to be sure but I think it’s justified to point out Fuck Bloomberg.

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          frongt@lemmy.zip
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          The hell does Bloomberg have to do with gaming videos

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          • Agent KaryoA Agent Karyo

            It was a joke. You can’t seriously think that PeerTube is viable alternative to YT (as a sole distribution channel).

            I say this as someone who does use PeerTube for a few content creators that mirror from YT.

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            Ulrich
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            Are you going to answer my question or just continue replying solely to insult me?

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            • UlrichU Ulrich

              Are you going to answer my question or just continue replying solely to insult me?

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              Agent Karyo
              wrote on last edited by agent_karyo@lemmy.world
              #11

              No insults intended. Apologies if it came off that way.

              The market share dynamics, UI/UX issues (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept) and lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system make PeerTube non-viable as a sole distribution source for a commercial (or even part-time income) channel.

              I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor (other factors can arguably be accounted for with varying degree of success).

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              • Agent KaryoA Agent Karyo

                No insults intended. Apologies if it came off that way.

                The market share dynamics, UI/UX issues (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept) and lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system make PeerTube non-viable as a sole distribution source for a commercial (or even part-time income) channel.

                I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor (other factors can arguably be accounted for with varying degree of success).

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                Ulrich
                wrote on last edited by ulrich@feddit.org
                #12

                (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept)

                People thought the same about YouTube at some point.

                lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system

                All the monetization systems are the same, minus one, which is the absolute worst part of the platform anyway.

                I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor

                The market share would grow ten thousand fold overnight if Steve moved.

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                • UlrichU Ulrich

                  (average person finds federation to be a difficult concept)

                  People thought the same about YouTube at some point.

                  lack of an “easy to pick up” monetisation system

                  All the monetization systems are the same, minus one, which is the absolute worst part of the platform anyway.

                  I would argue the market share difference is by the far the biggest factor

                  The market share would grow ten thousand fold overnight if Steve moved.

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                  Agent Karyo
                  wrote on last edited by agent_karyo@lemmy.world
                  #13

                  I would support GN opening a PeerTube channel (and I would watch their PeerTube channel), I just don’t think it’s viable to completely move off YT at this point.

                  Regarding monetisation, we of course will have to radically change internet monetisation models with a bigger focus on scheduled donations (for the platform and content creators) and a perks system for incentives and perhaps a bit torrent-enhanced style distribution system. But this is a long term thing, there is the here and now.

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                  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

                    Hyperbolic title to be sure but I think it’s justified to point out Fuck Bloomberg.

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                    dukemirage@lemmy.world
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    Was it really neccessary to fly there?

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                    • UlrichU Ulrich

                      the reality is that GN would need a YT channel to be commercially viable,

                      How did you arrive at this “reality”?

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                      Diplomjodler
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      I’d be interested to hear your proposals for alternative business models.

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                      • F frongt@lemmy.zip

                        The hell does Bloomberg have to do with gaming videos

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                        tekato@lemmy.world
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        Apparently Bloomberg ordered the takedown of a GamersNexus video because they used one of their clips. The video was about the smuggling of GPUs into China, so the assumption is that Bloomberg is actually trying to silence the story.

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                        • DiplomjodlerD Diplomjodler

                          I’d be interested to hear your proposals for alternative business models.

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                          Ulrich
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          It’s not an alternative business model. It’s the same business model on an alternative platform.

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                          • UlrichU Ulrich

                            It’s not an alternative business model. It’s the same business model on an alternative platform.

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                            DebatableRaccoon
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                            Then the fact that YT is more popular and the annoying catch-22 continues ever thus.

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                            • T tekato@lemmy.world

                              Apparently Bloomberg ordered the takedown of a GamersNexus video because they used one of their clips. The video was about the smuggling of GPUs into China, so the assumption is that Bloomberg is actually trying to silence the story.

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                              keyez@lemmy.world
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                              #19

                              The video in the post mentions that Blomberg has their own coverage of Nvidia GPUs and the black market which obviously isn’t as detailed and probably gets information wrong and they certainly want to silence this true reporting of the facts.

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                              • D DebatableRaccoon

                                Then the fact that YT is more popular and the annoying catch-22 continues ever thus.

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                                Ulrich
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                I don’t know what that has to do with anything. Yes, YouTube is more popular, what good does that do you if you’re banned from it?

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                                • UlrichU Ulrich

                                  I don’t know what that has to do with anything. Yes, YouTube is more popular, what good does that do you if you’re banned from it?

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                                  DebatableRaccoon
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  If you’re banned, nothing. But until then, YT is where the audience is. That’s why no-one/very few have jumped ship. A creator needs a large audience on a platform to make it worthwhile for them while an audience needs a good selection of creators to make the platform worthwhile to jump to. Until content creators band together to decide on a platform for everyone to jump to, we’re stuck right where we are.

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                                  • Agent KaryoA Agent Karyo

                                    I would support GN opening a PeerTube channel (and I would watch their PeerTube channel), I just don’t think it’s viable to completely move off YT at this point.

                                    Regarding monetisation, we of course will have to radically change internet monetisation models with a bigger focus on scheduled donations (for the platform and content creators) and a perks system for incentives and perhaps a bit torrent-enhanced style distribution system. But this is a long term thing, there is the here and now.

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                                    Ulrich
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    I just don’t think it’s viable to completely move off YT at this point.

                                    And yet you haven’t provided any justification for this position.

                                    Steve has millions of loyal followers. He has channel sponsors. He has his own personal products. He probably has thousands of channel donors.

                                    Would he take a substantial hit to his revenue? Absolutely. But to say its “not viable” is preposterous.

                                    At the very least he could begin mirroring his channel there.

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                                    • D DebatableRaccoon

                                      If you’re banned, nothing. But until then, YT is where the audience is. That’s why no-one/very few have jumped ship. A creator needs a large audience on a platform to make it worthwhile for them while an audience needs a good selection of creators to make the platform worthwhile to jump to. Until content creators band together to decide on a platform for everyone to jump to, we’re stuck right where we are.

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                                      Ulrich
                                      wrote on last edited by ulrich@feddit.org
                                      #23

                                      If you’re banned, nothing

                                      We’re not talking about me, we’re talking about Steve.

                                      But until then, YT is where the audience is.

                                      And it’s where the audience will remain until someone does something about it.

                                      A creator needs a large audience on a platform to make it worthwhile for them while an audience

                                      No shit. He already has the audience. He can bring them with him to the new platform.

                                      You’re still just stating a bunch of obvious stuff without providing any explanation why PeerTube isn’t viable.

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                                      • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                                        Was it really neccessary to fly there?

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                                        sunzu2
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        Why not?

                                        Decent content slop to send their message

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                                        • K keyez@lemmy.world

                                          The video in the post mentions that Blomberg has their own coverage of Nvidia GPUs and the black market which obviously isn’t as detailed and probably gets information wrong and they certainly want to silence this true reporting of the facts.

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                                          sunzu2
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          That’s my theory… They did a fake investigation and then got cucked.

                                          So now they are big mad

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