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I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor.

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  • Shouty personC Shouty person

    I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

    I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

    #indieauthor

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    @clacksee I too am fond of the words I write, but not so foolish as to think they're any good.

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    • Shouty personC Shouty person

      I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

      I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

      #indieauthor

      Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
      Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
      Shouty person
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      Judging by his website, I strongly suspect he also doesn’t believing in hiring cover designers.

      #indieauthor

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      • Shouty personC Shouty person

        I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

        I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

        #indieauthor

        Keegan NeaveN This user is from outside of this forum
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        Keegan Neave
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        #4

        @clacksee There's an indie scifi author who is amazing at world building and I love what they right. Holy crap though they need proof readers and an editor. I've lost count of the number of typos or content errors I report.

        A few times they even switched the names of characters a couple of times, I suspect they renamed them at some point and didn't find all the references to update.

        It just takes me out of the world as sometimes it's just so jarring

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        • Shouty personC Shouty person

          I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

          I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

          #indieauthor

          Chuck MunsonC This user is from outside of this forum
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          Chuck Munson
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          @clacksee I've worked as an editor a few times over the years, once editing a magazine with national newsstand circulation. But I stopped reading self-published novels after reading a review copy sent by an author who had written an underground classic that was quite good. His follow-up novel was so bad, with an ending that felt unfinished. I was like, did he have an editor? Did he just run the novel past family and friends who told him what he wanted to hear. Trust the editorial process.

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          • Shouty personC Shouty person

            I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

            I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

            #indieauthor

            teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
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            teresa_athome
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            @clacksee I didn't realize how important editors are to my reading experience until I read books published without the benefit of editing.

            There were books I wanted to like, but were too incoherent to finish (in one case I mapped out the action locations and dates in a notebook in order to form a timeline). I am grateful to editors every day.

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            • Shouty personC Shouty person

              I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

              I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

              #indieauthor

              Philippa CowderoyF This user is from outside of this forum
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              Philippa Cowderoy
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              @clacksee oh look, "advice" for the competition

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              • Shouty personC Shouty person

                I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                #indieauthor

                Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
                Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
                Dr Ro Smith
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                @clacksee Oh wow, that's a red flag.

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                • Shouty personC Shouty person

                  I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                  I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                  #indieauthor

                  CavyherdC This user is from outside of this forum
                  CavyherdC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @clacksee

                  Does he give...a reason for this opinion?

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                  • Chuck MunsonC Chuck Munson

                    @clacksee I've worked as an editor a few times over the years, once editing a magazine with national newsstand circulation. But I stopped reading self-published novels after reading a review copy sent by an author who had written an underground classic that was quite good. His follow-up novel was so bad, with an ending that felt unfinished. I was like, did he have an editor? Did he just run the novel past family and friends who told him what he wanted to hear. Trust the editorial process.

                    Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Shouty person
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                    @chuck
                    I’ve worked as an editor. I still know I need multiple rounds of editing. I cannot see my own mistakes – never mind my own awkwardness or repetition.

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                    • teresa_athomeT teresa_athome

                      @clacksee I didn't realize how important editors are to my reading experience until I read books published without the benefit of editing.

                      There were books I wanted to like, but were too incoherent to finish (in one case I mapped out the action locations and dates in a notebook in order to form a timeline). I am grateful to editors every day.

                      Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @teresa_athome
                      I’ve read some that were riddled with typos, some where the authors clearly didn’t understand the meaning of some of the words they used, and plenty that read like first drafts.

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                      • Dr Ro SmithR Dr Ro Smith

                        @clacksee Oh wow, that's a red flag.

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                        @Rhube
                        Right?

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                        • CavyherdC Cavyherd

                          @clacksee

                          Does he give...a reason for this opinion?

                          Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @cavyherd

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                          • Shouty personC Shouty person

                            @Rhube
                            Right?

                            Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @clacksee Yeah, it's one thing to not be able to afford an editor, but if you genuinely believe you're better off without a second set of eyes, you are too overconfident to spot your own mistakes.

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                            • Dr Ro SmithR Dr Ro Smith

                              @clacksee Yeah, it's one thing to not be able to afford an editor, but if you genuinely believe you're better off without a second set of eyes, you are too overconfident to spot your own mistakes.

                              Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @Rhube
                              If someone can’t afford an editor, I’d encourage them to swap services or beg for favours.

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                              • Shouty personC Shouty person

                                I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                                I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                                #indieauthor

                                ChaucerburntC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @clacksee I just read the post and, uh...

                                There are a couple of subtler errors but these three are the most glaring.

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                                • Shouty personC Shouty person

                                  I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                                  I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                                  #indieauthor

                                  Ian MalcolmI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @clacksee

                                  Eep. Yeah, that's... a whole lot of Wrong right there. 😬

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                                  • Shouty personC Shouty person

                                    I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                                    I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                                    #indieauthor

                                    Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @clacksee

                                    Geeze. I not only use beta readers, I use alpha readers as well! Every pair of eyes that reads my manuscript and gives me feedback improves the book!

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                                    • ChaucerburntC Chaucerburnt

                                      @clacksee I just read the post and, uh...

                                      There are a couple of subtler errors but these three are the most glaring.

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                                      Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @chaucerburnt
                                      Yeah. He definitely doesn’t need an editor, eh.

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                                      • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                                        @clacksee

                                        Geeze. I not only use beta readers, I use alpha readers as well! Every pair of eyes that reads my manuscript and gives me feedback improves the book!

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                                        @juergen_hubert
                                        According to him that’s writing by committee and actively making your books worse.

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                                        • Shouty personC Shouty person

                                          @juergen_hubert
                                          According to him that’s writing by committee and actively making your books worse.

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                                          @clacksee

                                          As someone with scientific training who has had experiences with peer review, this attitude is actively _painful_ for me.

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