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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 1st February 2026

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  • J jfranek@awful.systems

    I think I installed the cursed Windows 11 update on my work machine, because after taking several tries to boot, my second monitor stopped working (detected, but showing a black screen).

    Tried some different configurations, and could make only 0-1 screens work.

    Uninstalled the update and everything worked correctly again.

    Thanks for nothing Microslop.

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    flaviat@awful.systems
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    I also had a computer not boot. Tried installing windows 11 but the iso does not include network card drivers and requires a second drive that has them. I just happened to have another but it malfunctioned. Was assured IT would fix it but it still doesn’t boot. 😞

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    • I istewart@awful.systems

      I am confident that Altman in particular has a poor-to-nonexistent grasp of second-order effects.

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      mirrorwitch@awful.systems
      wrote on last edited by
      #34

      I mean you don’t have to grasp, know of, or care about the consequences when none of the consequences will touch you, and after the bubble pops and the company bankrupts catastrophically, you will remain comfortably a billionaire with several more billions in your aire than the ones you had when you started the bubble in the first place. Consequences are for the working class, capitalists fall upwards.

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      • A antifuchs@awful.systems

        And of all possible things to implement, they chose Matrix. lol and lmao.

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        mirrorwitch@awful.systems
        wrote on last edited by
        #35

        The interesting thing in this case for me is how did anyone think it was a good idea to draw attention to their placeholder code with a blog post. Like how did they went all the way to vibe a full post without even cursorily glancing at the slop commits.

        I’m convinced by now that at least mild forms of “AI psychosis” affect all chatbots users; after a period of time interacting with what Angela Collier called “Dr. Flattery the Always Wrong Robot”, people will hallucinate fully working projects without even trying to test whether it compiles.

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        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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          mirrorwitch@awful.systems
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          #36

          I gave the new ChatGPT Health access to 29 million steps and 6 million heartbeat measurements [“a decade of my Apple Watch data”]. It drew questionable conclusions that changed each time I asked.

          WaPo. Paywalled but I like how everything I need to know is already in the blurb above.

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          • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

            Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

            Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

            Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

            If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

            The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

            Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

            (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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            gerikson@awful.systems
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            #37

            enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

            Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

            src

            no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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            • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

              enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

              Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

              src

              no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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              flere-imsaho
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              #38

              retains the same informational content after running through rot13

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              • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                src

                no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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                istewart@awful.systems
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                #39

                oh man, it’s Aumann’s

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                • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                  enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                  Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                  src

                  no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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                  mirrorwitch@awful.systems
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                  #40

                  this sounds exactly like the sentence right before “they have played us for absolute fools!” in that meme.

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                  • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                    enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                    Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                    src

                    no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

                    nightsky@awful.systemsN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    nightsky@awful.systems
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                    #41

                    Are you trying to say that you are not regularly thinking about the meta level of evidence convergence procedures?

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                    • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                      enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                      Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                      src

                      no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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                      soyweiser@awful.systems
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                      #42

                      Tbh, this is pretty convincing, I agree a lot more with parts of the LW space now. (Just look at the title, the content isn’t that interesting).

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                      • M mirrorwitch@awful.systems

                        I gave the new ChatGPT Health access to 29 million steps and 6 million heartbeat measurements [“a decade of my Apple Watch data”]. It drew questionable conclusions that changed each time I asked.

                        WaPo. Paywalled but I like how everything I need to know is already in the blurb above.

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                        trashgoblin@awful.systems
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                        #43

                        Archive link, but you can extrapolate the whole article from the blurb. Mostly. It’s actually slightly worse than the blurb suggests.

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                        • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                          enjoy this glorious piece of LW lingo

                          Aumann’s agreement is pragmatically wrong. For bounded levels of compute you can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of evidence convergence procedures.

                          src

                          no I don’t know what it means, and I don’t want it to be explained to me. Just let me bask in its inscrutibility.

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                          lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems
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                          #44

                          The sad thing is I have some idea of what it’s trying to say. One of the many weird habits of the Rationalists is that they fixate on a few obscure mathematical theorems and then come up with their own ideas of what these theorems really mean. Their interpretations may be only loosely inspired by the actual statements of the theorems, but it does feel real good when your ideas feel as solid as math.

                          One of these theorems is Aumann’s agreement theorem. I don’t know what the actual theorem says, but the LW interpretation is that any two “rational” people must eventually agree on every issue after enough discussion, whatever rational means. So if you disagree with any LW principles, you just haven’t read enough 20k word blog posts. Unfortunately, most people with “bounded levels of compute” ain’t got the time, so they can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of, never mind, screw this, I’m not explaining this shit. I don’t want to figure this out anymore.

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                          • L lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems

                            The sad thing is I have some idea of what it’s trying to say. One of the many weird habits of the Rationalists is that they fixate on a few obscure mathematical theorems and then come up with their own ideas of what these theorems really mean. Their interpretations may be only loosely inspired by the actual statements of the theorems, but it does feel real good when your ideas feel as solid as math.

                            One of these theorems is Aumann’s agreement theorem. I don’t know what the actual theorem says, but the LW interpretation is that any two “rational” people must eventually agree on every issue after enough discussion, whatever rational means. So if you disagree with any LW principles, you just haven’t read enough 20k word blog posts. Unfortunately, most people with “bounded levels of compute” ain’t got the time, so they can’t necessarily converge on the meta level of, never mind, screw this, I’m not explaining this shit. I don’t want to figure this out anymore.

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                            blakestacey@awful.systems
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                            #45

                            The Wikipedia article is cursed

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                            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                              blakestacey@awful.systems
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                              #46

                              Is Pee Stored in the Balls? Vibe Coding Science with OpenAI’s Prism

                              Link Preview Image
                              Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

                              So initial experiments with Open AI's vibe-coding science tool Prism are going about as well as expected.

                              favicon

                              Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

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                                Is Pee Stored in the Balls? Vibe Coding Science with OpenAI’s Prism

                                Link Preview Image
                                Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

                                So initial experiments with Open AI's vibe-coding science tool Prism are going about as well as expected.

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                                Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

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                                Ow! My Balls

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                                • C cinnasverses@awful.systems

                                  A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky’s AI Risk Estimates (ie. “Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today”)

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                                  lurker@awful.systems
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                                  that post got way funnier with Eliezer’s recent twitter post about “EAs developing more complex opinions on AI other than itll kill everyone is a net negative and cancelled out all the good they ever did”

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                                  • blakestacey@awful.systemsB blakestacey@awful.systems

                                    Is Pee Stored in the Balls? Vibe Coding Science with OpenAI’s Prism

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Carl T. Bergstrom (@carlbergstrom.com)

                                    So initial experiments with Open AI's vibe-coding science tool Prism are going about as well as expected.

                                    favicon

                                    Bluesky Social (bsky.app)

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                                    blakestacey@awful.systems
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                                    Chris Lintott (@chrislintott.bsky.social‬):

                                    We’re getting so many journal submissions from people who think ‘it kinda works’ is the standard to aim for.

                                    Research Notes of the AAS in particular, which was set up to handle short, moderated contributions especially from students, is getting swamped. Often the authors clearly haven’t read what they’ve submitting, (Descriptions of figures that don’t exist or don’t show what they purport to)

                                    I’m also getting wild swings in topic. A rejection of one paper will instantly generate a submission of another, usually on something quite different.

                                    Many of these submissions are dense with equations and pseudo-technological language which makes it hard to give rapid, useful feedback. And when I do give feedback, often I get back whatever their LLM says.

                                    Including the very LLM responses like ‘Oh yes, I see that <thing that was fundamental to the argument> is wrong, I’ve removed it. Here’s something else’

                                    Research Notes is free to publish in and I think provides a very valuable service to the community. But I think we’re a month or two from being completely swamped.

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                                    • blakestacey@awful.systemsB blakestacey@awful.systems

                                      Chris Lintott (@chrislintott.bsky.social‬):

                                      We’re getting so many journal submissions from people who think ‘it kinda works’ is the standard to aim for.

                                      Research Notes of the AAS in particular, which was set up to handle short, moderated contributions especially from students, is getting swamped. Often the authors clearly haven’t read what they’ve submitting, (Descriptions of figures that don’t exist or don’t show what they purport to)

                                      I’m also getting wild swings in topic. A rejection of one paper will instantly generate a submission of another, usually on something quite different.

                                      Many of these submissions are dense with equations and pseudo-technological language which makes it hard to give rapid, useful feedback. And when I do give feedback, often I get back whatever their LLM says.

                                      Including the very LLM responses like ‘Oh yes, I see that <thing that was fundamental to the argument> is wrong, I’ve removed it. Here’s something else’

                                      Research Notes is free to publish in and I think provides a very valuable service to the community. But I think we’re a month or two from being completely swamped.

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                                      bluemonday1984@awful.systems
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                                      It gets worse:

                                      One of the great tragedies of AI and science is that the proliferation of garbage papers and journals is creating pressure to return to more closed systems based on interpersonal connections and established prestige hierarchies that had only recently been opened up somewhat to greater diversity.

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                                      • blakestacey@awful.systemsB blakestacey@awful.systems

                                        The Wikipedia article is cursed

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                                        zogwarg@awful.systems
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                                        #51

                                        Honestly even the original paper is a bit silly, are all game theory mathematics papers this needlessly farfetched?

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                                        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                                          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                                          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                                          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                                          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                                          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                                          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                                          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                                          bluemonday1984@awful.systems
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                                          New paper popped up in the arXiv about the slop machines’ impact on FOSS

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