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  • H hiddenlychee@lemmy.world

    Always bothered me. Means that anyone who can’t improv well is locked to low char characters.

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    aeshna_cyanea@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Well playing dnd is a good low stakes way to improve.

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    • J johnanthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      I would love a few recommendations, if you don’t mind. I played mostly Warhammer 2nd edition but can’t seem to get around to the latest 4th edition. It feels convoluted and not “balanced”, if that makes sense. Every few sessions I keep thinking there has to be a better and/or less complicated system out there.

      I mostly want the rules to get out of the way of the story we are playing, but still want some depth, differentiation and player choices. And I need a decent magic system, which seems to be the hardest to get right.

      Any ideas ?

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      brutticus@midwest.social
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      If you want some of that DnDness, I really liked 13th age, and Fanatsycarft. They are on opposite sides of the complexity spectrum. I liked those more than either PF. Ryutama taught me a lot of things about RPGs but a half assed combat system means I can’t recommend it., especially for a longer campaign. However if you’re interested in something on the experimental side, then I think its perfectly lovely for a one shot.

      Daggerheart is new, and Im not particularly interested in CR, so I haven’t really checked out Daggerheart beyond a cursory scan of the PDF.

      I enjoyed the heck out of Icon. Exalted is also fun for your fantasy needs. Its a different flavor from dnd though, both mechanically and the kinds of stories they want you to tell. If you’re looking for more flexible, open ended stories, fantasy or otherwise, I really liked Fate Accelerated.

      Thats just if youre looking on the fantasy side of things. On the Sci fi side, Ive been playing Cyberpunk Red and really liking it (although fatigue has yet to set in.) I really liked Shadowrun 4e, and I recommend that to anyone who wants to dip into that (Karmagen optional rule and Chummer.exe are you best friends). Lancer is a heck of a thing.

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      • J johnanthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Thank you for the detailed answer!

        I played Pathfinder for a few sessions, but didn’t care much for the combat system. I tend to favor conditions over hitpoints these days, and from what I recall Pathfinder was very A+B-C. “Wounded-Dying-Dead” systems are a bit too simplified, but I find around 15 hp to be the maximum I enjoy tracking.

        Fate looks interesting for sure. It isn’t what is was looking for, but the quick rules’ overview I just watched was very intriguing. I might try to find a session to watch to get a better idea of how the system plays out.

        Now Chronicles of Darkness… is not the medieval-fantasy setting I was looking for, but the system hits all the right spots. Around 10hp max, but with pretty much “wounded-dying-dead” superimposed - 9 attributes which combine to give various sub-stats - enough skills to cover basic situations, but room for specialisation as you see fit - rolling lots of dice for epic situations, but counting them fairly simply - and role playing elements integrated into the system through vices and virtues.
        From what I quickly watched, I love it. I might try to adapt it to medieval fantasy, or just play a a short campaign in the intended world to get a feel for it. Really cool any way, thanks again.

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        brutticus@midwest.social
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        Old world of Darkness had a few splats in different time periods, including Vampire: the Dark ages, which might suit your needs or give you ideas. You could probably cobble together some kind of Berserk esqe setting.

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        • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

          So…you go to bed with them if they roll a 20? Irl?

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          prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
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          Do you not?

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            Do you not?

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            worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today
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            #43

            Well, it was a joke…imagine ducking someone who said something cringe, just because they rolled a 20.

            I guess who am I to say no?

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            • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

              Well, it was a joke…imagine ducking someone who said something cringe, just because they rolled a 20.

              I guess who am I to say no?

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              faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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              I mean, my partner of 15 years started as a fling who accidentally lit himself on fire trying to do a party trick before I decided to sleep with him.

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                shinkantrain@lemmy.ml
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                How about we get out of here and you cast Magic Mouth on my Great Serpent?

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                • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                  I mean, my partner of 15 years started as a fling who accidentally lit himself on fire trying to do a party trick before I decided to sleep with him.

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                  worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today
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                  So, did you fix him?

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                  • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

                    So, did you fix him?

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                    faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                    Fix what? He’s always been great, haha.

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                    • J johnanthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      I would love a few recommendations, if you don’t mind. I played mostly Warhammer 2nd edition but can’t seem to get around to the latest 4th edition. It feels convoluted and not “balanced”, if that makes sense. Every few sessions I keep thinking there has to be a better and/or less complicated system out there.

                      I mostly want the rules to get out of the way of the story we are playing, but still want some depth, differentiation and player choices. And I need a decent magic system, which seems to be the hardest to get right.

                      Any ideas ?

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                      5too@lemmy.world
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                      I’m a GURPS fanboy. Complexity is determined entirely by how many rules the GM and players agree to - I’ve got a player with dozens of skills and several wonky abilities who plays side by side with an 8-skill player. They both do well, and both have what they want - one character is just more detailed than the other.

                      The trick with GURPS is to pull in the bare minimum of rules that you need for the kind of game you want. If you don’t like how a rule works? Swap it out!

                      I’ve enjoyed the Ironsworn line too, for a different feel. That’s a much less complicated system that can also be played GM-less, it works narrative elements into the engine - the story dictates how the rules apply!

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                      • A aeshna_cyanea@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        Well playing dnd is a good low stakes way to improve.

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                        kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        Unless you are uncomfortable with the situation and it ruins the game for you, sure.

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                        • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                          Fix what? He’s always been great, haha.

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                          kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          The burns, did you fix the burns?

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                            samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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                            “Um, I think you’re cute!” 🥺👉👈

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                            • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              The burns, did you fix the burns?

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                              faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                              They weren’t too bad, and they were on his other hand, so they didn’t even get in the way later that night

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                              • L lastyearsirritant@sopuli.xyz

                                My character has an 18 strength.
                                DM) ok, roll dice to force the gate open.

                                My character has an 18 charisma.
                                DM) ok, it only works if you personally also have an 18 charisma and can act it out.

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                                its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Heaven forbid I try and get my players to actually roleplay in this roleplaying game.

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                                • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                  Unless you are uncomfortable with the situation and it ruins the game for you, sure.

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                                  lazyviking@lemmy.world
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                                  If roleplaying ruins the game for you, maybe a roleplaying game is not for you

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                                    “Um, I think you’re cute!” 🥺👉👈

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                                    dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                    “How did you know I like compliments?!?!?”

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                                    • L lazyviking@lemmy.world

                                      If roleplaying ruins the game for you, maybe a roleplaying game is not for you

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                                      kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      There’s a major difference between “roll at least a 16 and you’ll have seduced the guard” and “seduce me to seduce the guard.”

                                      Different people are comfortable with different things. If you’re fine seducing your DM, cool. But I certainly wouldn’t be.

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                                      • kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.comK kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        Unless you are uncomfortable with the situation and it ruins the game for you, sure.

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                                        its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Maybe charisma builds just aren’t for you.

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                                        • H hiddenlychee@lemmy.world

                                          Man I’ve so many times been required to say word for word what my character says in my charisma rolls, but because I suck at improv it’s been bad. I’ve gotten nat 20s this way but my DM is like “well what you said is cringy so it wouldn’t fly”. Literally every DM I have ever had ignored the dice roll and only cared about the improv

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                                          mirthfulalembic@lemmy.world
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                                          That should only be required if what you’re trying to do would have a higher DC than you could possibly roll, but the DM humors you by allowing you to try convincing them anyway. Or that has been pre-agreed in session zero because the group is all theater/improv nerds or something.

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