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Canadian parliament gives standing ovation to honor Charlie Kirk.

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  • D dom@lemmy.ca

    Again, they aren’t spineless cowards when their choices are “evil” and “pretty shitty.” They are voting for what is best for them.

    You can say that they have other choices, but as individuals, they really do not. Any other vote is essentially a vote for “evil”

    Look what happened down south. You think those people who voted for Jill Stein are happy that trump got in?

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    soup@lemmy.world
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    The States have a two-party system and because in their primaries they completely fuck it up every time, including plenty of corruption from the democratic party itself, they got to where they are. This is what we need to avoid, but we’re too busy looking at our feet as we walk towards a similar fate.

    That said, we aren’t in the US, we’re in Canada, in case you weren’t aware. Our biggest issue is that the NDP can get half the votes that the Liberals got in 2019 and more than them in 2021 yet we see seat splits of 157 to 24 and 160 to 25. Flip your example around, and can you imagine how many people who voted “strategically” helped cause their ridings to lose out on NDP candidates? People claim they have no chance as if the country doesn’t want them but millions upon millions do. And then today we’re still all fucking miserable, a shithead banker is in charge, and the one party that fought for us(and actually got shit done when they put a gun to the Liberals with the coalition) lost pretty much everything.

    We must really hate ourselves, to constantly fall for this bullshit. Conservatives AND Liberals are suffocating this country; do you want to let it die while pretending you’re doing the right thing or do want to actually do the bare fucking minimum and vote for the party whose platform actually aligns with your views?

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      video link : https://ca.news.yahoo.com/watch-conservative-mp-acknowledged-charlie-195251715.html

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        You cannot be a good person and a nazi, you are still a nazi.

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        • S someguy3@lemmy.world

          Conservative MP for Lethbridge Rachel Thomas pays tribute to Charlie Kirk in the House of Commons, calls for the defence of free speech and against political violence. She gets a standing ovation from the Conservatives and the Liberals.

          Emphasis mine.

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          auli@lemmy.ca
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          So a Canadian talks about defence of free speech when we don’t even have free speech as a right. We have limits on what we can say.

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          • S soup@lemmy.world

            Maybe if all the “strategic voters” had even a little bit of a spine. “I prefer the NDP but I need to vote NDP! Hey, why does the NDP not get any support?!”

            How many Canadians flatly refuse to vote for what they believe while being mad that the government isn’t reading their minds? We aggressively signal that we do not want the NDP and then get mad that they aren’t the thing we keep showing them that we do not want. Get a clue.

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            auli@lemmy.ca
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            Sorry I’m a xis make the current NDP doesn’t want me there is no fucking way I’m voting for them.

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            • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

              She’s welcome to listen to what she wants, i was just surprised the respect she had for him given he wants a world where she wouldn’t have rights.

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              auli@lemmy.ca
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              So she’s stupid just like the minorities who cited for Trump. I’ll never understand them.

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              • I ifitwasuptome@lemmy.ca

                Read the article, title is clickbait.

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                auli@lemmy.ca
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                They could have made the speech without mentioning him or mentioning others. How come no speech when two Democrats politicians shot? How come only when some conservative asshole who isn’t even a politician?

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                • G glide@lemmy.ca

                  Misleading title. Yes, Charlie Kirk’s assassination sparked a conversation about the importance of free speech and disavowing political violence. The standing ovation was not for Charlie, but for the outcome of that speech.

                  Still, you’d think they’d at least TRY to be reasonable with the optics of the conversation.

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                  circav@lemmy.ca
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                  That countservative hag’s words made them stand for Kirk.

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                  • CruxifuxC Cruxifux

                    Why the fuck is our supposedly liberal government giving standard ovations to conservative pundits? What do they hope to accomplish by pushing this rhetoric? Right wingers will never see this and think “wow maybe I’ll vote liberal next election” you fucking idiots. I hate everything.

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                    circav@lemmy.ca
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                    I wrote to my MP because of this. Absolutely disgusting behaviour to appalled Kirk and they fell for it.

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                    • A auli@lemmy.ca

                      Sorry I’m a xis make the current NDP doesn’t want me there is no fucking way I’m voting for them.

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                      circav@lemmy.ca
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                      Stop being so butthurt about some bad wording in a doc, you were never gonna vote NDP face it

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                      • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                        Does anyone know what’s going on in this context? Is this a part of the trade negotiations or something?

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                        circav@lemmy.ca
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                        It’s part of Carney and the shitlibs sucking the US and Trump off, elbows down you might say. Capitulation, praise and acquiescence is their modus operandi. They have no intention of standing up for Canada, it’s all been lies.

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                          mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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                          yeah see the thing about this is that most people would say that good stuff

                          but good people don’t also say the bad stuff

                          and anybody who thinks somebody is good solely because they said some good stuff is a fucking idiot, you have to consider the bad and change your view accordingly (like hopefully that woman did). but most maga nutjobs aren’t rn, they just ignore what they don’t like

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                          • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

                            Liberalism is inherently a right wing political ideology. It uses socially progressive issues for the working class to promote financial and commercial policies that benefit the ruling class.

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                            Cruxifux
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                            Correct.

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                              You cannot be a good person and a nazi, you are still a nazi.

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                              Phoenixz
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                              Of course he isn’t a good person, he is a fucking Nazi and deserved what he got

                              I think the point is that just about everybody who thinks this was a good guy is like a Christian; they’ve only been fed the positive parts and blurps, and are wholly ignorant of the dark side of the subject because they were never shown what it really was about

                              I think we need to continue posting his real messages

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                              • G glide@lemmy.ca

                                Misleading title. Yes, Charlie Kirk’s assassination sparked a conversation about the importance of free speech and disavowing political violence. The standing ovation was not for Charlie, but for the outcome of that speech.

                                Still, you’d think they’d at least TRY to be reasonable with the optics of the conversation.

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                                savethetuahawk@lemmy.ca
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                                Our country is governed by chronic losers and fucking idiots.

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                                • A auli@lemmy.ca

                                  Sorry I’m a xis make the current NDP doesn’t want me there is no fucking way I’m voting for them.

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                                  Victor Villas
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                                  You’re a what

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                                  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                    video link : https://ca.news.yahoo.com/watch-conservative-mp-acknowledged-charlie-195251715.html

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                                    iegod
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                                    Disgusting.

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                                      bennoodling@lemmy.ca
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                                      The liberals did not give a standing ovation to charlie kirk. It was performative political theatre from the cons. A conservative MP made a statement praising kirk, framing kirk as a beacon of family values. The liberals could rise to support those values or remain sitting and be accused of supporting political violence. It was a no win situation set up by the cons. The next day the libs had a “standing ovation”. If you are outraged by the story ask yourself who wins from your outrage.

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                                      • P Phoenixz

                                        Of course he isn’t a good person, he is a fucking Nazi and deserved what he got

                                        I think the point is that just about everybody who thinks this was a good guy is like a Christian; they’ve only been fed the positive parts and blurps, and are wholly ignorant of the dark side of the subject because they were never shown what it really was about

                                        I think we need to continue posting his real messages

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                                        dirigibles@lemmy.world
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                                        What is with all this ‘deserved what he got’ insanity? I know it’s the internet and all, but calm down. He was a person, flawed just like the rest of us. He had views that many of us found disagreeable, just like everyone else.

                                        Black people are upset that he died, gay people are upset that he died, trans people are upset that he died; why? Because he wasn’t some evil extremist calling for violence. He was a moderate and calling for debate.

                                        Where is all this hate towards Kirk coming from? And please don’t cherry pick a handful of out of context quotes. There are thousands of hours of video discrediting all these random quotes people are using to showcase his villainy.

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                                        • B bennoodling@lemmy.ca

                                          The liberals did not give a standing ovation to charlie kirk. It was performative political theatre from the cons. A conservative MP made a statement praising kirk, framing kirk as a beacon of family values. The liberals could rise to support those values or remain sitting and be accused of supporting political violence. It was a no win situation set up by the cons. The next day the libs had a “standing ovation”. If you are outraged by the story ask yourself who wins from your outrage.

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                                          dicjacobus@lemmy.world
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                                          If I hear anyone ranting about family/traditional values Im just going to cut to the chase and assume you consume Russian origin propaganda by the barrel-load. Nobody pushes that stuff harder than them. No one stands to gain from the chaos it creates in the west, more than them.

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