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AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT outsells entire combined NVIDIA RTX 50 series GPUs at German retailer

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  • C cron@feddit.org

    Is this just this week’s exception or is this representative of the retail market?

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    Scratch
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    #5

    Nvidia are selling many multiples of this volume to AI providers.

    Gaming means essentially nothing in the big picture. (Outside of maybe prestige or similar)

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      iontempted@lemmynsfw.com
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      #6

      The 9070XT is a good card for the price, and that doesn’t tell us a lot, there’s going to be markets where AMD does better and some where Nvidia does better, as an AMD user I feel like they still fall behind with their drivers, I’ve had many Driver timeouts with my RX6700XT just because I was hitting alt tab on CS2, I’ve never had it on Nvidia.

      Also someone who does a lot of upscaling with Topaz I would have loved to see AMD making some serious grounds there there’s no reason why they should be that behind with content creators, I don’t think we’ll ever see the GPU department catching up as the CPU did with Ryzen but I feel like everytime Nvidia fucks something up, AMD does the same so It’s a game of who’s going to fuck up more.

      I bought the 6700xt just because I was contemplating on the 3070 but I saw it was an 8GB VRAM card and I thought yeah miss me with that shit.

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      • D Scratch

        Nvidia are selling many multiples of this volume to AI providers.

        Gaming means essentially nothing in the big picture. (Outside of maybe prestige or similar)

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        cron@feddit.org
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        This statistic refers only to enthusiasts who build their own PCs. It does not represent the overall PC market, laptops, or data-center and other business purchases.

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          #8

          Honestly this whole “AMD sells more!” “Well Nvidia sells more in THIS place!” is a fool’s errand to keep fighting over. Different locations in the world will have different pricing and thus it will shift which brand/card is better value for the money, and it will also depend on local tax laws and a ton of other variables. Brazil, for example, has AMD have somewhat lower prices overall thanks to AMD having an assembly plant here, something neither Nvidia and Intel have, and thus, their GPUs/CPUs are more expensive.

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          • iontempted@lemmynsfw.comI iontempted@lemmynsfw.com

            The 9070XT is a good card for the price, and that doesn’t tell us a lot, there’s going to be markets where AMD does better and some where Nvidia does better, as an AMD user I feel like they still fall behind with their drivers, I’ve had many Driver timeouts with my RX6700XT just because I was hitting alt tab on CS2, I’ve never had it on Nvidia.

            Also someone who does a lot of upscaling with Topaz I would have loved to see AMD making some serious grounds there there’s no reason why they should be that behind with content creators, I don’t think we’ll ever see the GPU department catching up as the CPU did with Ryzen but I feel like everytime Nvidia fucks something up, AMD does the same so It’s a game of who’s going to fuck up more.

            I bought the 6700xt just because I was contemplating on the 3070 but I saw it was an 8GB VRAM card and I thought yeah miss me with that shit.

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            commander@lemmy.world
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            #9

            Do you have any experience with Topaz and a 9070xt? I don’t because my 9070 PC runs Linux but I do have a Topaz license that goes to like 5.1 that I use on an older PC with an Nvidia card that serves as my Windows only software computer

            Benchmarks for the 9070xt seemed competitive for Topaz

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            The AM Radeon RX 9070 XT is here for $600 msrp. How does it compare to the 5070 Ti and 5070 in content creation applications?

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            I was hoping Topaz would release for Linux since they had beta versions available but they didn’t update past 5.1 and then recently announced they were cancelling the Linux support plans and then they went full on subscription plans rather than buy once for a year of updates and then it’s yours to keep

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            • C commander@lemmy.world

              Do you have any experience with Topaz and a 9070xt? I don’t because my 9070 PC runs Linux but I do have a Topaz license that goes to like 5.1 that I use on an older PC with an Nvidia card that serves as my Windows only software computer

              Benchmarks for the 9070xt seemed competitive for Topaz

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              The AM Radeon RX 9070 XT is here for $600 msrp. How does it compare to the 5070 Ti and 5070 in content creation applications?

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              I was hoping Topaz would release for Linux since they had beta versions available but they didn’t update past 5.1 and then recently announced they were cancelling the Linux support plans and then they went full on subscription plans rather than buy once for a year of updates and then it’s yours to keep

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              iontempted@lemmynsfw.com
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              I don’t, I have a 6700xt I don’t remember much about my settings but It’s quite slow when upscaling to 4K.

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              • iontempted@lemmynsfw.comI iontempted@lemmynsfw.com

                I don’t, I have a 6700xt I don’t remember much about my settings but It’s quite slow when upscaling to 4K.

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                commander@lemmy.world
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                Someday I’ll get a drive to install Windows on and test the version of Topaz I have with it. The Puget benchmarks with it and Topaz are good but don’t know if my final version is recent enough to be stable with the 9070

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                • C commander@lemmy.world

                  Someday I’ll get a drive to install Windows on and test the version of Topaz I have with it. The Puget benchmarks with it and Topaz are good but don’t know if my final version is recent enough to be stable with the 9070

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                  iontempted@lemmynsfw.com
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                  Do you have any recommendations, I used to upscale and restore old Trailers, Videos, Porn and etc. I don’t remember what model I used but I always used flowframes for 60fps interpolation

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                  • Lucy :33 Lucy :3

                    Maybe AMD is cheaper at Mindfactory than other resellers, and with NVidia it’s the other way around?

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                    utjebe@reddthat.com
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                    At least in EU it just could have been just the right pricing with models in 800-900 EUR for 9070XT. Still outrageous price…

                    Then you have 5070 that’s the “low” model of 50s Nvidia that only maching 9070XT with “you can do AI and RTX” and 5080 arguably better than 9070XT, but in most cases over 1k EUR.

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                    • iontempted@lemmynsfw.comI iontempted@lemmynsfw.com

                      The 9070XT is a good card for the price, and that doesn’t tell us a lot, there’s going to be markets where AMD does better and some where Nvidia does better, as an AMD user I feel like they still fall behind with their drivers, I’ve had many Driver timeouts with my RX6700XT just because I was hitting alt tab on CS2, I’ve never had it on Nvidia.

                      Also someone who does a lot of upscaling with Topaz I would have loved to see AMD making some serious grounds there there’s no reason why they should be that behind with content creators, I don’t think we’ll ever see the GPU department catching up as the CPU did with Ryzen but I feel like everytime Nvidia fucks something up, AMD does the same so It’s a game of who’s going to fuck up more.

                      I bought the 6700xt just because I was contemplating on the 3070 but I saw it was an 8GB VRAM card and I thought yeah miss me with that shit.

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                      muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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                      And here I bought an Intel b580. -sigh-

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                        lumisal@lemmy.world
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                        They’d probably sell even more of their naming scheme was less confusing.

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                        • C cron@feddit.org

                          This statistic refers only to enthusiasts who build their own PCs. It does not represent the overall PC market, laptops, or data-center and other business purchases.

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                          Yeah, I just got a new gaming laptop. Nobody sells gaming laptops with AMD GPUs in my country. I looked! So I went with an AMD CPU and a 5070 instead.

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                            network_switch@lemmy.ml
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                            I almost never see AMD GPU’s laptops. Like 10 years of them being a rarity. Don’t even know if they have a mobile available 9060 yet. I think don’t think AMD produce much laptop GPUs for vendors anyways

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                              network_switch@lemmy.ml
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                              It’s really good. I can see the 9070 and the XT being GTX 970 and GTX 1060 levels of long term relevance in gaming PCs

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                                It’s really good. I can see the 9070 and the XT being GTX 970 and GTX 1060 levels of long term relevance in gaming PCs

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                                anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Currently running a GTX1060 and it’s such a workhorse, my gosh.

                                Got my RX 9070 on the way 🙂

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                                • iontempted@lemmynsfw.comI iontempted@lemmynsfw.com

                                  Do you have any recommendations, I used to upscale and restore old Trailers, Videos, Porn and etc. I don’t remember what model I used but I always used flowframes for 60fps interpolation

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                                  commander@lemmy.world
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                                  #20

                                  Topaz is absolutely the best. There are other commercial software out there that’s talked up a bit but everything i’ve read says Topaz is still better. Free stuff, nothing really comes close. There’s this that i hope get’s better and more developer interest. Available on Linux and Windows

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                                  GitHub - TNTwise/REAL-Video-Enhancer: Interpolate, Upscale, Decompress, and Denoise videos easily on Linux/Windows/MacOS.

                                  Interpolate, Upscale, Decompress, and Denoise videos easily on Linux/Windows/MacOS. - TNTwise/REAL-Video-Enhancer

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                                  GitHub (github.com)

                                  If you’re Windows only, there’s this. It’s more mature in development

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                                  GitHub - AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI: Video, Image and GIF upscale/enlarge(Super-Resolution) and Video frame interpolation. Achieved with Waifu2x, Real-ESRGAN, Real-CUGAN, RTX Video Super Resolution VSR, SRMD, RealSR, Anime4K, RIFE, IFRNet, CAIN, DAIN, and ACNet.

                                  Video, Image and GIF upscale/enlarge(Super-Resolution) and Video frame interpolation. Achieved with Waifu2x, Real-ESRGAN, Real-CUGAN, RTX Video Super Resolution VSR, SRMD, RealSR, Anime4K, RIFE, IFRNet, CAIN, DAIN, and ACNet. - AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI

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                                  But Topaz is better than everything else. It’s why I grabbed a used laptop with an Nvidia GPU for a good price

                                  The free stuff is real hit or miss with real life video. Animations generally always looks good

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                                  • C commander@lemmy.world

                                    Topaz is absolutely the best. There are other commercial software out there that’s talked up a bit but everything i’ve read says Topaz is still better. Free stuff, nothing really comes close. There’s this that i hope get’s better and more developer interest. Available on Linux and Windows

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    GitHub - TNTwise/REAL-Video-Enhancer: Interpolate, Upscale, Decompress, and Denoise videos easily on Linux/Windows/MacOS.

                                    Interpolate, Upscale, Decompress, and Denoise videos easily on Linux/Windows/MacOS. - TNTwise/REAL-Video-Enhancer

                                    favicon

                                    GitHub (github.com)

                                    If you’re Windows only, there’s this. It’s more mature in development

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    GitHub - AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI: Video, Image and GIF upscale/enlarge(Super-Resolution) and Video frame interpolation. Achieved with Waifu2x, Real-ESRGAN, Real-CUGAN, RTX Video Super Resolution VSR, SRMD, RealSR, Anime4K, RIFE, IFRNet, CAIN, DAIN, and ACNet.

                                    Video, Image and GIF upscale/enlarge(Super-Resolution) and Video frame interpolation. Achieved with Waifu2x, Real-ESRGAN, Real-CUGAN, RTX Video Super Resolution VSR, SRMD, RealSR, Anime4K, RIFE, IFRNet, CAIN, DAIN, and ACNet. - AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI

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                                    But Topaz is better than everything else. It’s why I grabbed a used laptop with an Nvidia GPU for a good price

                                    The free stuff is real hit or miss with real life video. Animations generally always looks good

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                                    iontempted@lemmynsfw.com
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                                    What models do you recommend usually for AMD cards?

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                                      They’d probably sell even more of their naming scheme was less confusing.

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                                      fleem
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                                      so that’s not just me being unable to keep a good hierarchy of their shit in my thought cabinet?

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                                        Might just be a personal perspective, but the majority of Nvidia cards that I’ve seen purchased in my community (Not in germany tho) are second hand - most aren’t buying the 50 series due to their horrible pricing. People are buying AMD cards new though due to their good value proposition.

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                                        genosseflosse@feddit.org
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                                        The power consumption of the 50xx cards is just insane, and this makes it a bad choice in Germany where electricity prices are very high. This means I have to pay a premium for the card, extra for the excessive power demands and potentially extra in summer to keep my gaming room cool.

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                                        • A anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                          Currently running a GTX1060 and it’s such a workhorse, my gosh.

                                          Got my RX 9070 on the way 🙂

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                                          network_switch@lemmy.ml
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                                          With the rise of PC handhelds and cutting edge graphics not seeming like a great selling point anymore, I think you’ll be golden for about a decade like that 1060. Maybe more because of the rise of PC handhelds and the Switch 2 and future Switch 3

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