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      southernbeaver@lemmy.world
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      What happened in that episode?

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        What happened in that episode?

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        This was the episode that finally convinced critical role to kick out a player that was awful and ruined the experience for everyone.

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        • Maven (famous)M Maven (famous)

          This was the episode that finally convinced critical role to kick out a player that was awful and ruined the experience for everyone.

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          baroqueinmind@lemmy.one
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          And the player was a black man. So then the show was simply a group on only white people, who occasionally invited a guest token brown person every so often.

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            This was the episode that finally convinced critical role to kick out a player that was awful and ruined the experience for everyone.

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            Odd thing is I don’t remember him being awful on camera, I think most of it must’ve been offscreen. I don’t think they’ve talked about the reasons yet, other than that he cheated on a few rolls

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              Odd thing is I don’t remember him being awful on camera, I think most of it must’ve been offscreen. I don’t think they’ve talked about the reasons yet, other than that he cheated on a few rolls

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              I was thinking of starting from the beginning sometime soon so if I do that and get to episode 27 and ALSO remember this post I can update you on what happened

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                Odd thing is I don’t remember him being awful on camera, I think most of it must’ve been offscreen. I don’t think they’ve talked about the reasons yet, other than that he cheated on a few rolls

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                southernbeaver@lemmy.world
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                Ah ok. I think you don’t notice him being awful but it becomes obvious on rewatch.

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                  Odd thing is I don’t remember him being awful on camera, I think most of it must’ve been offscreen. I don’t think they’ve talked about the reasons yet, other than that he cheated on a few rolls

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                  zenjal@lemmy.world
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                  He also had a tendency to be a “that guy” and either jump in on other people’s scenes or take them over, like using telekinesis on Laura’s arrow that was getting the killing blow to give it more oomph, even though it was already a kill shot, or having a list of 17 things he wanted to do/look for in town. Hed also got upset when he couldn’t be super amazing badass like not being able to meta magic multiple leveled spells in a turn or how the mending catrip wasn’t able to repair the flying carpet into a magic item again as opposed to jus a carpet.

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                    Odd thing is I don’t remember him being awful on camera, I think most of it must’ve been offscreen. I don’t think they’ve talked about the reasons yet, other than that he cheated on a few rolls

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                    1. They were having to actively watch his dice rolls all the time for a long time before Episode 27. They even make subtle jokes about it during the stream. There were times you can visibly see him just straight up re roll it. Matt even said in a comment once, before deleting it, that the “only dice fudging player is no longer part of the show.”

                    2. He kept lying about how many spell slots he had available.

                    3. “Misunderstood” a ring of Spell Storing so that he had four 4th level spells stored in it

                    4. He would be a complete dick to fans on Twitter to the point that other CritRole people had to step in and tell him off. Went everywhere from “YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO DO THIS THING” to “YOU’RE NOT A REAL FAN”.

                    5. Had an extreme case of Main Character Syndrome. During the last episode he even tried to solve Percy’s arc, throwing around his royal lineage, trying to make it about his telekensis putting a shot in that Laura rolled a 35 on, getting a pet because Laura had a pet,

                    6. Shopped way too fucking much and planned ridiculous things that could never work, exhausting Mercer to no end and driving Travis absolutely insane.

                    7. Made really offputting sexual comments for no reason like “As Vex is going over this plan, Tiberius is getting a chub but you can’t see it because it’s inside.” WHAT?! Granted that was from the last episode he was on but fucking hell.

                    8. Would argue with Mercer about how things worked and then effectively challenge him. Mercer would then put him in his place and he’d get all whiny. He openly said at one point he believes DnD is a competition between the DM and the Player.

                    9. He’d metagame to high heaven, one example being refusing to get involved in a Beholder fight because Orion, playing a sorcerer, knew about the Beholders anti-magic cone. When pressed on this in-game by the other PCs, he uses Silence to just completely shut them up so they can’t tell him off. Just really bitchily shuts them down. Or when he tried to get a long rest because he used up all his spell slots and knew a Rakshasha was hunting them. OR when he tried to summon a ton of water to stop a vampire fleeing despite his character never seeing a vampire nor knowing their weaknesses over flowing water.

                    10. He got really frustrated that a chick he was trying to go after ended up going after another NPC, a woman no less. He ended up demonstrating more than a little latent homophobia from that.

                    They’ve never really said why he left and most Critical Role communities will shut down any discussion of it. Not sure why. It’s a DnD game. We’ve all had to deal with bad players.

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                      And the player was a black man. So then the show was simply a group on only white people, who occasionally invited a guest token brown person every so often.

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                      kyle@lemm.ee
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                      Did you watch the show? The guy was a huge problem player. At a minimum, he didn’t want to play D&D the same as the rest of the group.

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                      • StametsS Stamets
                        1. They were having to actively watch his dice rolls all the time for a long time before Episode 27. They even make subtle jokes about it during the stream. There were times you can visibly see him just straight up re roll it. Matt even said in a comment once, before deleting it, that the “only dice fudging player is no longer part of the show.”

                        2. He kept lying about how many spell slots he had available.

                        3. “Misunderstood” a ring of Spell Storing so that he had four 4th level spells stored in it

                        4. He would be a complete dick to fans on Twitter to the point that other CritRole people had to step in and tell him off. Went everywhere from “YOU DON’T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO DO THIS THING” to “YOU’RE NOT A REAL FAN”.

                        5. Had an extreme case of Main Character Syndrome. During the last episode he even tried to solve Percy’s arc, throwing around his royal lineage, trying to make it about his telekensis putting a shot in that Laura rolled a 35 on, getting a pet because Laura had a pet,

                        6. Shopped way too fucking much and planned ridiculous things that could never work, exhausting Mercer to no end and driving Travis absolutely insane.

                        7. Made really offputting sexual comments for no reason like “As Vex is going over this plan, Tiberius is getting a chub but you can’t see it because it’s inside.” WHAT?! Granted that was from the last episode he was on but fucking hell.

                        8. Would argue with Mercer about how things worked and then effectively challenge him. Mercer would then put him in his place and he’d get all whiny. He openly said at one point he believes DnD is a competition between the DM and the Player.

                        9. He’d metagame to high heaven, one example being refusing to get involved in a Beholder fight because Orion, playing a sorcerer, knew about the Beholders anti-magic cone. When pressed on this in-game by the other PCs, he uses Silence to just completely shut them up so they can’t tell him off. Just really bitchily shuts them down. Or when he tried to get a long rest because he used up all his spell slots and knew a Rakshasha was hunting them. OR when he tried to summon a ton of water to stop a vampire fleeing despite his character never seeing a vampire nor knowing their weaknesses over flowing water.

                        10. He got really frustrated that a chick he was trying to go after ended up going after another NPC, a woman no less. He ended up demonstrating more than a little latent homophobia from that.

                        They’ve never really said why he left and most Critical Role communities will shut down any discussion of it. Not sure why. It’s a DnD game. We’ve all had to deal with bad players.

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                        skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                        They’ve never really said why he left and most Critical Role communities will shut down any discussion of it. Not sure why. It’s a DnD game. We’ve all had to deal with bad players.

                        The cast refuses to speak about it out of respect for Orion, and most CR communities respect that and ban any discussion or speculation as to the reason for his departure.

                        Orion has come out since then admitting to having a drug problem, so that (in conjunction with the extensive list you posted) seems the most likely explanation for him getting the boot.

                        Also of note, he made his own spinoff audio series based around tiberius and his adventures, in defiance of tiberius being canonically dead in CR. He made a kickstarter to turn it into an animated series but evidently just ran with the money and the series never materialized.

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                          Ah ok. I think you don’t notice him being awful but it becomes obvious on rewatch.

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                          skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                          Yeah nothing stuck out to me except a few awkward moments on the first watch but after becoming familiar with the CR crew’s vibe in the later episodes, it’s incredibly cringey in retrospect.

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                            They’ve never really said why he left and most Critical Role communities will shut down any discussion of it. Not sure why. It’s a DnD game. We’ve all had to deal with bad players.

                            The cast refuses to speak about it out of respect for Orion, and most CR communities respect that and ban any discussion or speculation as to the reason for his departure.

                            Orion has come out since then admitting to having a drug problem, so that (in conjunction with the extensive list you posted) seems the most likely explanation for him getting the boot.

                            Also of note, he made his own spinoff audio series based around tiberius and his adventures, in defiance of tiberius being canonically dead in CR. He made a kickstarter to turn it into an animated series but evidently just ran with the money and the series never materialized.

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                            Stamets
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                            Also of note, he made his own spinoff audio series based around tiberius and his adventures, in defiance of tiberius being canonically dead in CR. He made a kickstarter to turn it into an animated series but evidently just ran with the money and the series never materialized.

                            He also ran a charity stream against someones will and pocketed all that money too.

                            Dude is a selfish prick.

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