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  • UlrichU Ulrich

    You being able to play it on linux is not the same thing as having Linux support. They don’t even have a first-party launcher. Probably half the games I buy on GOG don’t even launch, even after adding them to Steam. Meanwhile Steam works literally 100% of the time, in my experience.

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    aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Try running the GOG games from Lutris instead of Steam (I also heard good things about Heroic Launcher, but haven’t tried it).

    Obviously for GOG games Steam isn’t going to have the scripts that properly configure Proton and if you try and run the games directly with Wine yourself you get none of the modern conveniences in things like Steam, Lutris or the Heroic Launcher and have to actually learn the “old ways” of going through the log when game fails to launch, figure out the missing DLLs and which packages they’re in and adding those yourself to the Wine instance you’re using for that game with Winetricks.

    GOG’s support for Linux starts and ends at distributing the Linux installers for games which have Linux versions, exposing a REST API to their service that lets any app integrate with it - which is how Lutris and Heroic Launcher can download the game installers directly from GOG - and making sure the games are DRM free (which in my experience makes it more likely that GOG games work under Linux than Steam games: I’ve had to actually download and run pirated versions of Steam games for them to actually work in Linux but never had that problem with GOG games).

    Steam on the other hand will do pretty much everything for you, directly from their all-in-one storefront+launcher app, exposing very little of the inner workings to you, but the tradeoff is that you’re tied to their ecosystem and don’t tend to learn how to do things yourself.

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    • UlrichU Ulrich

      It means they have zero Linux support.

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      shadshack@sh.itjust.works
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      They literally say they support Ubuntu… https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212456929-General-questions?product=gog

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        Do you have a link to someone talking about the Taiwan situation?

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        theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
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        gog red candle games at DuckDuckGo

        DuckDuckGo. Privacy, Simplified.

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        It has a lot to do with how it would have affected Cyberpunk 2077’s release in China and it’s huge gaming market. I mean, just look at the downvote count in my previous comment, there are a lot of butthurt factory trolls downvoting it from the red stained Lemmy “Marxist Leninist” foundries. China cannot accept any political commentary, specially coming from Taiwan, and the devs got punished for it. The devs capitulated, but China did not care, so why bother?

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        • UlrichU Ulrich

          It means they have zero Linux support.

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          Only their Galaxy client, because any games with native linux support has the proper installer files. They don’t go out of their way to ensure windows only games also work on linux

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            HTH does work on Linux.

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            High Tail Hall?

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            • S simulation6@sopuli.xyz

              You’re doing gods work, GOG. No wait, scratch that.

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              Slaanesh is proud

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              • I Cast FistI I Cast Fist

                Only their Galaxy client, because any games with native linux support has the proper installer files. They don’t go out of their way to ensure windows only games also work on linux

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                korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                The Linux version of X4 took over a week longer to update on GoG than Steam for the 7.00 update.

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                • M msage@programming.dev

                  Zero is a bit harsh, I bought some games with Linux launchers on GoG.

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                  korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                  Yeah, its a little better than zero but it isn’t great.

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                    the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
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                    I clicked on the bundle because I was curious to see it and now I have a bunch of porn games I guess. I don’t have an issue with porn games but I don’t play porn games so now I have a bunch of trash cluttering my library.

                    I was able to kinda hide them but they are still there.

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                    • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                      The Linux version of X4 took over a week longer to update on GoG than Steam for the 7.00 update.

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                      Not a problem exclusive to linux. There are many games that don’t receive an update on gog after some time, or lack the linux build, or several other things.

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                      • A alfredolin@sopuli.xyz

                        Hei give this a try, it helped me a lot for a gog game at least (Tunic). https://github.com/moraroy/NonSteamLaunchers-On-Steam-Deck

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                        peetabix@sh.itjust.works
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                        I’ll give that a try, thanks

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                        • T the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world

                          I clicked on the bundle because I was curious to see it and now I have a bunch of porn games I guess. I don’t have an issue with porn games but I don’t play porn games so now I have a bunch of trash cluttering my library.

                          I was able to kinda hide them but they are still there.

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                          saigot@lemmy.ca
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                          Huniepop is genuinely one of the better match 4 type games out there and has a bathing suit only mode if you are feeling adventurous.

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                          • S shadshack@sh.itjust.works

                            They literally say they support Ubuntu… https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212456929-General-questions?product=gog

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                            Ulrich
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                            Awesome! Is there a link to the GOG client for Ubuntu!?

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                            • UlrichU Ulrich

                              Awesome! Is there a link to the GOG client for Ubuntu!?

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                              shadshack@sh.itjust.works
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                              Yeah yeah. Just saying it’s definitely more than the “zero support” you credit them for.

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                              • S shadshack@sh.itjust.works

                                Yeah yeah. Just saying it’s definitely more than the “zero support” you credit them for.

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                                Ulrich
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                                How is it different? In what way are they “supporting” Ubuntu?

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                                  Huniepop is genuinely one of the better match 4 type games out there and has a bathing suit only mode if you are feeling adventurous.

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                                  the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
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                                  None of them are even remotely close to the sort of games I enjoy, the porn part isn’t the issue I just don’t care for “dating” sims or puzzle games.

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                                  • A aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    Try running the GOG games from Lutris instead of Steam (I also heard good things about Heroic Launcher, but haven’t tried it).

                                    Obviously for GOG games Steam isn’t going to have the scripts that properly configure Proton and if you try and run the games directly with Wine yourself you get none of the modern conveniences in things like Steam, Lutris or the Heroic Launcher and have to actually learn the “old ways” of going through the log when game fails to launch, figure out the missing DLLs and which packages they’re in and adding those yourself to the Wine instance you’re using for that game with Winetricks.

                                    GOG’s support for Linux starts and ends at distributing the Linux installers for games which have Linux versions, exposing a REST API to their service that lets any app integrate with it - which is how Lutris and Heroic Launcher can download the game installers directly from GOG - and making sure the games are DRM free (which in my experience makes it more likely that GOG games work under Linux than Steam games: I’ve had to actually download and run pirated versions of Steam games for them to actually work in Linux but never had that problem with GOG games).

                                    Steam on the other hand will do pretty much everything for you, directly from their all-in-one storefront+launcher app, exposing very little of the inner workings to you, but the tradeoff is that you’re tied to their ecosystem and don’t tend to learn how to do things yourself.

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                                    Ulrich
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                                    if you try and run the games directly with Wine yourself you get none of the modern conveniences in things like Steam, Lutris or the Heroic Launcher and have to actually learn the “old ways” of going through the log when game fails to launch

                                    They do not work in Lutris or Heroic either, as I said previously.

                                    the tradeoff is that you’re tied to their ecosystem and don’t tend to learn how to do things yourself

                                    All of Steam’s Proton stuff is open-source and GOG could easily implement them, but they make the decision not to every day.

                                    I get it, Linux makes up like 3% of the gaming market, but its paramount to me personally, and while I appreciate GOG’s game preservation and other ethics, at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. The fact that I have to “learn the old ways” is why I won’t buy from them. I do not want to “learn how to do things myself”, I just want to play the games I paid for and not be spied on and have ads relentlessly crammed down my throat. Sorry, not sorry. I have a job already.

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                                    • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                                      The Linux version of X4 took over a week longer to update on GoG than Steam for the 7.00 update.

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                                      kairubyte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      This seems like a developer/publisher issue. GoG can’t update with files it hasn’t been given.

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                                        Would’ve been Pay2Fap, but it’s free! (ง ื▿ ื)ว

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                                        • UlrichU Ulrich

                                          if you try and run the games directly with Wine yourself you get none of the modern conveniences in things like Steam, Lutris or the Heroic Launcher and have to actually learn the “old ways” of going through the log when game fails to launch

                                          They do not work in Lutris or Heroic either, as I said previously.

                                          the tradeoff is that you’re tied to their ecosystem and don’t tend to learn how to do things yourself

                                          All of Steam’s Proton stuff is open-source and GOG could easily implement them, but they make the decision not to every day.

                                          I get it, Linux makes up like 3% of the gaming market, but its paramount to me personally, and while I appreciate GOG’s game preservation and other ethics, at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. The fact that I have to “learn the old ways” is why I won’t buy from them. I do not want to “learn how to do things myself”, I just want to play the games I paid for and not be spied on and have ads relentlessly crammed down my throat. Sorry, not sorry. I have a job already.

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                                          aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          They do not work in Lutris or Heroic either, as I said previously.

                                          That was unclear from “Probably half the games I buy on GOG don’t even launch, even after adding them to Steam”. Frankly I thought you were trying to run GOG games the old fashioned way directly in Wine from the command line, since I haven’t really had your experience of half my games in GOG not running in Linux (of the ones I tried in my 200+ games library in GOG only a few did not just run fine directly when installed and launched via Lutris, and of those I still managed get maybe half to run, which is similar to my success rate with Steam games).

                                          Frankly it’s very weird that you’ve tried them with Lutris and Heroic and have such a horrible success rate on GOG games specifically, since for me even pirated games yield a better “hands off” success rate than “half don’t even launch”.

                                          You must be incredibly unlucky or the Steam Deck (assuming that’s what you use) is seriously fucked up in terms of general Wine compatibility.

                                          All of Steam’s Proton stuff is open-source and GOG could easily implement them, but they make the decision not to every day.

                                          Steam games come with phone-home DRM and are often heavily integrated with Steam’s server API for things like cloud saves, which ties them down even further to Steam’s infrastructure.

                                          GOG going with the Steam APIs and Steam’s very own fork of Wine (which is what Proton is), the former designed to tie games down to Steam’s server infrastructure and the other to integrate best with Steam’s store app, makes no sense both from a business perspective and from a freedom in gaming perspective and “freedom in gaming” is GOG’s main schtik as a games store.

                                          Steam’s contributions to Linux are to help Steam, not to help Linux, which is probably why they forked Wine into Proton rather than contributing into Wine: they have to keep it open source since Proton is based on the original LGPL code from Wine (they would need to rewrite it from scratch to close source it), but by controlling that fork they can make sure it will always work best inside the Steam app, in the Steam Deck and with Steam Games.

                                          Steam’s Linux contributions are optimized to work best with Steam (and specific things like the Steam API only work with Steam infrastructure), which is what I meant when I said that they want to tie gamers to their infrastructure.

                                          Let’s not be naive: Steam does what’s good for Steam and whilst as a side-effect they do contribute to Linux, it’s always in ways that are optimized to work best from the Steam app and with Steam games, whilst GOG does not contribute to Linux at all, just kinda supporting it with minimum effort, but since their “unique selling proposition” is freedom in gaming, de facto in Linux they get out of the way of open source gaming support tools and of gamers who want to more tightly control their gaming experience.

                                          Both Steam and GOG are doing what’s best for them and both bring as a side effect different benefits for gaming in Linux.

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