Kiritsugu is a debatable example. His gun is only effective because of the Nasuverse’s ridiculously complex magic system. Regular bullets would do next to nothing against most of that setting’s threats.

Then again he’s one of the most feared mortals (despite being kind of shit as a Magus) due to simply sniping his targets when their defenses are down or demolishing their entire hideout with copious explosives - he’s the epitome of “boring but practical”. The handgun and its bullshit anti-magic bullets only come out on the rare occasion where he confronts his targets face-to-face.

Gachiakuta is the latest and greatest example of this I think. Such a fancy power system, basically Stands from JoJo, but you feel shock when a character shows up with a regular ass glock and starts firing.

I wonder if the presentation of guns in fantasy anime is at all reflective of how the japanese first experienced black powder weapons. Maybe I am looking too far into it.

I always thought it was messed up that Indy fired into a crowd and did it from his hip to boot

Apparently there was a whole whip vs sword choreographed fight planned for that, but Harrison Ford was super sick at the time so they just had him shoot the other guy. Ended up being fantastic, but I feel bad for the swordsman who learned a bunch of choreography for nothing.

For a moment there I didn’t realise this was about rpgs XD wtf brain!

Dude my jaw literally dropped when that scene hit. seeing all that sick ass shit happening in the fight and then homie pulls out the blicky and just starts gunning people. I about lost my fucking mind

I like magic settings that deal with non-magic technology becoming a threat to magic.

Also Viggo broke his toe when he kicked the helmet

Yay, another opportunity to share one my my favorite illustrations ever

There’s a reason every other character basically hates him. He’s not very considerate

The Artificer at one of my tables has an All-Purpose Tool, that they regularly use to slot in cantrips. Their go-to is of course Eldritch Blast. I ran the numbers, and that has effects similar to a pistol. So I commented in our group chat that “Functionally speaking, $Artificer.name has a gun.”

Which in my mind, doesn’t make much sense. If mundane tech evolves, the infusion of magic into said tech should evolve at the same rate. IMO, Artificer should not be its own class, it should be what a Wizard becomes in an industrial age. So then, other magic classes would similarly get their own industrial flavor in such an age of artifice.

That would be super cool to build out actually, I’ll add it to my list.

If you haven’t seen the movie Wizards, you should

i was thinking perhaps it’s representative of how a single gun used decisively ended a source of instability/corruption in their society pretty cleanly

the precise application of force solves many a problem

Depends on your setting and how magic works, I suppose. You can sidestep that by putting limitations on magic: innate ability, skill, limitations on power, etc. Or experimenting with magic is dangerous/difficult, and culturally mages jealously guard their hard won discoveries – whereas mundane tech encourages collaboration and is easy to reverse engineer.

Yes.
Also that.

It depends on what you define infusion as. Three big theme of magic versus tech isn’t that magic stops existing, but that tech radically changes the balance of power in how to use magic. To use a fire wizard as an example, the best use of a fire wizard is different between the medieval era and industrial era.

For the medieval era, the best use of a fire wizard is as magical artillery. Sieges are likely broken as the attacking army has enough fire power from their wizards to burn away defenders in a castle. You likely need these wizards to understand strategy, so they will likely be generals or kings. A fire wizard is going to have a high status in society.

For the industrial era, the best use of a fire wizard is as a replacement for coal. Weapons on the battlefield have replaced the need of fire wizards and some weapons have enough range to be a threat to the wizards, negating their need. Instead, a fire wizard is either used to melt metal or to power a steam engine because they are cheaper than using coal. At best, a fire wizard is going to be at the level of skilled labor in this society as their efforts are best used to be an energy supply.

That shift in power is going to have major ramifications on societies.

It will never stop being funny to me seeing a dozen dudes try to shoot Superman, and when that doesn’t work they try to punch him.