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I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

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  • BredrollB Bredroll

    @Nershelam @vkc @sashin its a complex problem , the bad actors can often simply be multiple automated accounts, or disposable accounts. perhaps a system where new or long-term inactive accounts are rate limited. the real problems kick in when someone manages to figure out how to maliciously use a blocking system 😕

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    @Bredroll
    Also I forgot, was asked since YEARS to have the option to disable commenting from people who don't follow you.
    Never done.
    Because the devs do not really value safety.

    And that's part of the problem.

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    • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

      I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

      It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

      I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

      Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

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      @vkc the issue if that you have your own server, sadly dozen of server are unmaintained, or hosted by morront mysoginistic ... so if you don't defederate them you are toast.

      I have both the hardware and the knowledge to run my own server but i won't as i don't have time to do the defederation / moderation.

      maybe ask @jerry if he can (kindly) give you an easy to use list of server to defederate so they cannot annoy you anymore ?

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      • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

        @vkc the issue if that you have your own server, sadly dozen of server are unmaintained, or hosted by morront mysoginistic ... so if you don't defederate them you are toast.

        I have both the hardware and the knowledge to run my own server but i won't as i don't have time to do the defederation / moderation.

        maybe ask @jerry if he can (kindly) give you an easy to use list of server to defederate so they cannot annoy you anymore ?

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        @lexinova @jerry I share blocklists with dozens of other mods. I can assure you it's not as simple as "block the baddies" and defederation.

        This problem goes much deeper than that, is cultural, and will require men to stand up to other men.

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        • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

          @lexinova @jerry I share blocklists with dozens of other mods. I can assure you it's not as simple as "block the baddies" and defederation.

          This problem goes much deeper than that, is cultural, and will require men to stand up to other men.

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          @vkc @jerry yeah that is true, it's one of the reason (if i remove the fact i don't want to talk in the name of my company) that i did not reveal my company name (that would give mine easily)

          i would be trown to tousand of follower in days, but i would be much more visible to those creep.

          but strangely i've found out that it happen much more often on certain people than other (at the same level of public exposure) i wonder why. 🤔

          but if you find a way we can help you don't hesitate

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          • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

            I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

            It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

            I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

            Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

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            @vkc

            I don't know how many peeps you need following you to make you understand that you are welcome HERE on Mastodon. Point of fact, I am now following you. Cheers.

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            • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

              I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

              It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

              I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

              Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

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              @vkc

              Yeah, I feel that, I've definitely touched up against some pretty insane parts of the Fediverse. Honestly it's kind of difficult to get an overview sense of the general vibe of the place because of how odd and messy federation (and defederation) works.

              Everything will be smooth sailing for the most part and then you run into these people with these crazy groups of people following them around who will target you for some percieved slight, and then just as quick you never see them again.

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              • contrasocialC contrasocial

                @vkc

                Yeah, I feel that, I've definitely touched up against some pretty insane parts of the Fediverse. Honestly it's kind of difficult to get an overview sense of the general vibe of the place because of how odd and messy federation (and defederation) works.

                Everything will be smooth sailing for the most part and then you run into these people with these crazy groups of people following them around who will target you for some percieved slight, and then just as quick you never see them again.

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                @contrasocial I think a big problem is that folks see "Fediverse" as "big Mastodon instances" and not all of the little actors out there who can ruin a day with hate speech, terrifying images, etc. A big part of that is the (often great) job of moderation, where dark corners are quickly cut off, but not from everyone.

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                • shadowwwindS shadowwwind

                  @vkc hey, thank you for posting here, I rediscovered your channel because of your Mastodon posts.

                  For me the moderation is a big reason to be on a managed instance

                  Question I had but reading your other comments suggests the answer ;D :
                  One thing I wondered, did your mastodon experience change when you moved from a moderated instance to your own?

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                  @shadowwwind
                  Managed instances aren't enough. They have the benefit of pre-blocking the awful servers, but the truly vile will open burner accounts on "too big to block" instances to harass their targets.

                  We need software with better safety features.

                  The other way you can go, ofc, is blocking the big instances, but that's not helpful for anyone trying for any sort of reach.
                  @vkc

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                  • S SomeVeganCheeseIsOk

                    @vkc yeah there's a lot of fringe folks here. Both in the good sense and the bad sense. The Internet is a public space, and that means we get to experience all the stuff that comes with that.

                    I am mostly grateful even for the weird ugly sad parts, because that's how you know it's real.

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                    @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk
                    When someone is expressing that they've been wronged and harmed, it is not okay to respond with celebration that it is so.

                    Walking down the street isn't any less real because you weren't stabbed.
                    @vkc

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                      @vinnie
                      Edit: Check https://linuxmom.net/@vkc/116008121241261673

                      I'm not @vkc and I haven't had the same experiences (white male privilege) so I can't speak for her. Still, she's probably tired of explaining it, so here goes:

                      A flood of replies ranging from annoying to sadistic. Often from new accounts or new instances, possibly created just to harass her. Replies don't spread to instances where no one follows the poster, so you don't see it, but she will (because she's @mentioned). See my latest boosts on what has (not) been done to stop this.

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                      • Veronica ExplainsV Veronica Explains

                        When people say "Veronica loves the Fediverse", they remove my agency from this place. I'm a character. They're the narrator. I don't like that.

                        I think for a lot of folks, Fedi is sweet. It's quiet. It's slow. But for many, many, many of us, it's this slow-rolling insanity machine where you see the WORST THINGS and nobody else does.

                        And to be frank and clear, I'm just talking about things from my white US perspective. I don't even get the worst of it, and I recognize that.

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                        where you see the WORST THINGS and nobody else does

                        @vkc isn't it good though? I mean not the terrible things you get to see of course but that they don't get automatically amplified like they do on centralized social media. This puts people in more control. If a troll sends me some crap from some dark corner of Fedi my audience won't even see it unless I choose to do so by reacting to it. I like it that way. On big socials comments of larger and more popular posts as troll and spam fests. Here spam is almost non-existent precisely because of this.

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                        • dpflugD dpflug

                          @SomeVeganCheeseIsOk
                          When someone is expressing that they've been wronged and harmed, it is not okay to respond with celebration that it is so.

                          Walking down the street isn't any less real because you weren't stabbed.
                          @vkc

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                          @dpflug @vkc

                          You are as much a part of the problem - the policing of others - as I am - having a different take on dealing with the bad bits of life.

                          If your distress tolerance is SO LOW that "eh, I don't mind the bad as much" is worth taking someone to task over - you might need to talk to someone.

                          Also? She is PERFECTLY capable as an adult woman of telling me herself that I am being a rude bitch. You, sir, come off as a bit of a wannabe white knight.

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