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Irish rappers Kneecap barred from entering Canada: 'Dangerous endorsements of violence and hate'

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  • SunshineS Sunshine

    They got marked as zionist.

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    Avid Amoeba
    wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
    #20

    How, they equated Hezbollah to the IDF. Regardless of any arguments about equivalence or lack thereof, I don’t think a zionist would ever do that.

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    • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

      How, they equated Hezbollah to the IDF. Regardless of any arguments about equivalence or lack thereof, I don’t think a zionist would ever do that.

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      Sunshine
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      They could be misinformed.

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      • SunshineS Sunshine

        They could be misinformed.

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        wrote on last edited by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
        #22

        We’re born misinformed.

        But don’t mind me, I’m on my third Friday beer. 😄

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        • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

          1:1 eh? I guess. 😄

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          relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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          #23

          did you see that bozo barred from entering Canada? or even from performing? naah…

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            fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca
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            #24

            Didn’t we just let a super felon rapist in like a month ago?

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            • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

              That’s fair, since they’re on the record as endorsing groups that are recognized by the Canadian government as terrorist entities:

              A 2024 performance reportedly caught a group member cheering “Up Hamas, Up Hezbollah.”

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              masterspace@lemmy.ca
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              #25

              Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable.

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              • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                That’s fair, since they’re on the record as endorsing groups that are recognized by the Canadian government as terrorist entities:

                A 2024 performance reportedly caught a group member cheering “Up Hamas, Up Hezbollah.”

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                masterspace@lemmy.ca
                wrote on last edited by masterspace@lemmy.ca
                #26

                I don’t think you can take a single live artististic performance as “being on the record for endorsing” anything.

                Eminem wasn’t endorsing everything in his lyrics.

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                • SunshineS Sunshine

                  Hamas and Hezbollah are OK?

                  Where did I say this?

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                  jimmy90@lemmy.world
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                  #27

                  what do you think of them?

                  what do you think of october 7th?

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                  • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                    How, they equated Hezbollah to the IDF. Regardless of any arguments about equivalence or lack thereof, I don’t think a zionist would ever do that.

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                    cygnus@lemmy.ca
                    wrote on last edited by cygnus@lemmy.ca
                    #28

                    Some people here think everything is a Marvel movie with one perfectly good side and one perfectly bad one. Any deviation from that and they slap you with the “bad guy” label. Only a complete moron would read my post and interpret it as meaning I’m a zionist.

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                    • S snoons@lemmy.ca

                      To be even more fair; you’re directly quoting misinformation released by the Canadian government in support of Israel and their mass murder of Palestinian people (aka, genocide). This misinformation is a result of “Jewish” groups, which recently have shown themselves as basically being lapdogs for the Israeli state.

                      Kneecap aren’t anti-semetic, they are anti-Israel and as much as Israeli fascists want it to be; being against the Israeli state is not the the same as being against Jews.

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                      cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                      #29

                      Is this video misinformation? https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ie5qs

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                      • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                        I don’t think you can take a single live artististic performance as “being on the record for endorsing” anything.

                        Eminem wasn’t endorsing everything in his lyrics.

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                        cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                        • B barbatruc@sh.itjust.works

                          Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier. Canada certainly is not in a historical posture to pitch in on how to resist genocide.

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                          dwazaal@lemmy.world
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                          #31

                          Who are we to judge people how they resist their occupier

                          Hezbollah actively supported the Syrian military occupation of Lebanon. A brutal occupation that lasted longer than the Israeli occupation. Hezbollah killed many Lebanese political figures including the most famous one, Rafik Hariri.

                          To defend Bachar El Assad, they slaughtered sunnis across Syria.

                          The judge investigating the Beirut Port Explosion ? He receive death threats from Hezbollah.

                          Let’s not white wash their bloody crimes.

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                            masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                            Yes, like I said.

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                            • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                              Yes, like I said.

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                              cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                              Me, an intellectual, looking at a guy wearing a Hezbollah flag and saying up Hamas, up Hezbollah: “actually that doesn’t prove he likes Hezbollah”

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                              • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                                Me, an intellectual, looking at a guy wearing a Hezbollah flag and saying up Hamas, up Hezbollah: “actually that doesn’t prove he likes Hezbollah”

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                                relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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                                The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
                                “We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

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                                  The band said on Monday “let us be unequivocal: we do not, and have never, supported Hamas or Hezbollah.”
                                  “We condemn all attacks on civilians, always,” the band said.

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                                  cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                                  I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                                  • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                                    I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                                    Jo Cox family says Kneecap offering ‘half an apology’ over alleged call to kill MPs

                                    Husband of murdered Labour MP says Belfast rappers’ talk of being unfairly targeted undermines their statement

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                                    The group offered an apology to the families of murdered MPs Jo Cox and David Amess.

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                                      #37

                                      A festival was held in Toronto about a month ago in support of Israel, wow crazy that Canada approved such a dangerous endorsement of violence and hate.
                                      No problem with publicly supporting perpetrators of a genocide, right?
                                      https://www.jewishtoronto.com/the-sounds-of-israel

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                                      • cygnus@lemmy.caC cygnus@lemmy.ca

                                        I find it hard to reconcile that with the video, but if they are willing to publicly apologize for it then they should be allowed into Canada.

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                                        masterspace@lemmy.ca
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                                        It’s really easy to reconcile that with the video. It’s called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don’t entirely mean or haven’t entirely thought through.

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                                        • M masterspace@lemmy.ca

                                          It’s really easy to reconcile that with the video. It’s called watching the atrocities that Israel commits, and getting angry enough that you say something you don’t entirely mean or haven’t entirely thought through.

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                                          cygnus@lemmy.ca
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                                          #39

                                          This seems a foreign concept to many folks here and elsewhere online, but somehow I’ve managed to be horrified by Israel’s genocide and want to end it, without ever thinking “you know what, the literal terrorists on the other side are good actually, death to Israel and all Jews”.

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