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The horror of Age Verification is arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

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  • Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
    Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
    Em :official_verified:
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    The horror of Age Verification is
    arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

    Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

    The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

    'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

    Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

    We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

    #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

    Maxime090M Athro RobR Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S wbftwW 10 Replies Last reply
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    • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

      The horror of Age Verification is
      arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

      Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

      The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

      'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

      Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

      We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

      #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

      Maxime090M This user is from outside of this forum
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      Mandatory age verification risks creating massive privacy vulnerabilities and could expose sensitive personal data. Protecting kids online is important, but blanket surveillance measures are not the answer.

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      • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

        The horror of Age Verification is
        arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

        Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

        The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

        'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

        Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

        We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

        #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

        Athro RobR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Em0nM4stodon ban o. Social media for under 16s is good.

        Em :official_verified:E SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S Jessie Nabein :neofox_peek_owo:J wbftwW ℂ𝕖𝕝𝕖𝕀π•₯𝕖@world: /# β–―R 6 Replies Last reply
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        • Athro RobR Athro Rob

          @Em0nM4stodon ban o. Social media for under 16s is good.

          Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
          Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
          Em :official_verified:
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          @robriley Unfortunately, a social media ban is not good.

          What this truly means, is requiring every adult using social media to provide official ID to a for-profit third-party company who will inevitably leak it or use it. This is really bad for users' safety. Breaches like this have already happened.

          Additionally, it makes every account attached to a legal identity, allowing governments full control and censorship over their critics and opposition. It also endangers the most vulnerable and marginalized groups online, especially people of colour and the LGBTQ+ community. Age Verification leads to horrible outcomes for democracy, and for society as a whole. Moreover, it does not end up protecting the children. This is sadly only used as an excuse to convince people who are misinformed.

          I invite you to read more on this topic using this excellent resource prepared by EFF: https://www.eff.org/age

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          • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

            The horror of Age Verification is
            arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

            Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

            The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

            'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

            Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

            We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

            #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

            Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
            Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF This user is from outside of this forum
            Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ
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            @Em0nM4stodon Don't these kids have parents? Shouldn't their parents be keeping them safe on the internet? Would these same people let their kids loose in a large city to roam all day and night without supervision?

            Π‘Π°Ρ€Π° ΠšΠ²Π°Ρ€Ρ† :celaniheartenby: :n_star:S dodothedevπŸ¦€πŸ’»D SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S KichaeK 4 Replies Last reply
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            • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

              @Em0nM4stodon Don't these kids have parents? Shouldn't their parents be keeping them safe on the internet? Would these same people let their kids loose in a large city to roam all day and night without supervision?

              Π‘Π°Ρ€Π° ΠšΠ²Π°Ρ€Ρ† :celaniheartenby: :n_star:S This user is from outside of this forum
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              @fiend_unpleasant@mastodon.social @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange WELL WE'LL...WE'LL...MAKE PEOPLE SHARE THEIR ID BEFORE GRANTING ACCESS TO STREETS! Sounds like a bright future, doesn't it?? /s

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              • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                The horror of Age Verification is
                arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

                The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

                'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

                Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

                We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

                #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

                SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Em0nM4stodon

                oh well, I suppose we knew this fight was on the political horizon, eh?
                Watch as Carney bends the knee.

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                • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                  @Em0nM4stodon Don't these kids have parents? Shouldn't their parents be keeping them safe on the internet? Would these same people let their kids loose in a large city to roam all day and night without supervision?

                  dodothedevπŸ¦€πŸ’»D This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @fiend_unpleasant @Em0nM4stodon
                  Many do. When I worked in the police, 90% of my job was babysitting kids who were messingnabout on the street.

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                  • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                    @Em0nM4stodon Don't these kids have parents? Shouldn't their parents be keeping them safe on the internet? Would these same people let their kids loose in a large city to roam all day and night without supervision?

                    SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @fiend_unpleasant @Em0nM4stodon

                    It's not about the kids, it's about tracking every adult on the internet.

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                    • SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:

                      @Em0nM4stodon

                      oh well, I suppose we knew this fight was on the political horizon, eh?
                      Watch as Carney bends the knee.

                      Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
                      Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
                      Em :official_verified:
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                      @SnowyCA This kind of authoritarian policies are to be expected coming from a Conservative leader. Yes, I said Conservative, on purpose.

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                      • SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:

                        @fiend_unpleasant @Em0nM4stodon

                        It's not about the kids, it's about tracking every adult on the internet.

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                        @SnowyCA @Em0nM4stodon you don't think pedophiles will find a way to use this to their advantage?

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                        • Athro RobR Athro Rob

                          @Em0nM4stodon ban o. Social media for under 16s is good.

                          SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @robriley

                          Age verification is not a "good idea" for anyone.
                          It doesn't stop youngsters from accessing ' illegal" sites, they will find a way around it, but what these laws do accomplish is:

                          - Everyone, including you, will have to upload their official ID on the internet, thus exposing all *your* personal information to hackers via data leaks.

                          *Your ID* can then be used to do all sorts of fraudulent activities, and *you* will be responsible for untangling the mess -- it will take years , plus you will be forced to pay out all legal fees, not the website or the government.

                          Additionally, because the government can monitor every keystroke from your computer or other device, you could be penalized for your opinion....not to mention I don't want to live in a dictatorship like North Korea, China, or Russia --censorship is terrible for democracy.

                          -kids will learn how to become 'hackers' in order to circumvent law so, I ask you how does this improve the life of children or yourself?

                          @Em0nM4stodon

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                          • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                            @SnowyCA This kind of authoritarian policies are to be expected coming from a Conservative leader. Yes, I said Conservative, on purpose.

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                            @Em0nM4stodon
                            You will go arguments from me about that point!

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                            • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                              @SnowyCA @Em0nM4stodon you don't think pedophiles will find a way to use this to their advantage?

                              SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @fiend_unpleasant @Em0nM4stodon

                              Pardon me? Elaboration is needed.

                              edit: Children are at more risk from sexual predators when they are at home, than while online.

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                              • SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:S SnowyCA :vivaldi_red:

                                @fiend_unpleasant @Em0nM4stodon

                                Pardon me? Elaboration is needed.

                                edit: Children are at more risk from sexual predators when they are at home, than while online.

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                                @SnowyCA @Em0nM4stodon OK. Pedo dev creates seemingly safe garbage app that has malware in it. Google et al let it into an app store because they do it 1000's of times a day. Pedo dev only activates malware on devices reporting to be used by kids.

                                So not only is is bad for everyone, it does nothing to protect kids. I believe there is a group using this as a long con to hurt children.

                                Also they are at more risk at church than at home or online.

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                                  @Em0nM4stodon ban o. Social media for under 16s is good.

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                                  @robriley @Em0nM4stodon kids will just find a way around it, they always do.

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                                  • Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆF Alpha Male Martha Stewart πŸ‰πŸŒˆ

                                    @SnowyCA @Em0nM4stodon OK. Pedo dev creates seemingly safe garbage app that has malware in it. Google et al let it into an app store because they do it 1000's of times a day. Pedo dev only activates malware on devices reporting to be used by kids.

                                    So not only is is bad for everyone, it does nothing to protect kids. I believe there is a group using this as a long con to hurt children.

                                    Also they are at more risk at church than at home or online.

                                    Em :official_verified:E This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @fiend_unpleasant @SnowyCA

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                                    • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                      The horror of Age Verification is
                                      arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                                      Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

                                      The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

                                      'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

                                      Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

                                      We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

                                      #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

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                                      @Em0nM4stodon already sent an email to both my MP’s and PM’s offices, but no replies (as expected). I’m going to follow up with another one asking pointed questions. This collection of anti-age verification resources : https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification might come handy.

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                                      • wbftwW wbftw

                                        @Em0nM4stodon already sent an email to both my MP’s and PM’s offices, but no replies (as expected). I’m going to follow up with another one asking pointed questions. This collection of anti-age verification resources : https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification might come handy.

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                                        @wbftw This is excellent! Thank you so much! πŸ™Œβœ¨

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                                        • Em :official_verified:E Em :official_verified:

                                          The horror of Age Verification is
                                          arriving in Canada πŸš¨πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                                          Contact your federal MP and the office of the Prime Minister this week to tell them you strongly oppose the privacy-destroying and inefficient measure.

                                          The time to push back is NOW: https://globalnews.ca/news/11797286/liberal-party-adopts-motion-social-media-ban-kids/

                                          'Prime Minister Mark Carney said last month that the idea β€œmerits an open and considered debate in Canada,” although he does not have a settled view on it yet and said there were good points on both sides.'

                                          Shared educational resources with them on the dangers of Age Verification: https://www.eff.org/age

                                          We do NOT want this nightmare in Canada. Fight back for your privacy rights! βœŠπŸ”’

                                          #AgeVerification #Privacy #DigitalRights #HumanRights #MassSurveillance #Canada #CanPoli #CndPol

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                                          @Em0nM4stodon@infosec.exchange emailed my MP.

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