How about instead of speed cameras you change your road designs? People won’t speed if they cannot speed safely.

Make your roads less wide. Add some curves, depending on required max speed, you make the curves larger or smaller. On lower speed roads, add obstacles to drive around.

There are many forms of traffic management that don’t require speeding cameras but then again, speeding cameras are for making the government money, not for traffic safety

I don’t know about the guy you are asking, but I have multiple school zones with a 50kph limit in my area as well.

The school zones in my area are 30kph, and a lot of people find that excessive and want it slower, so 50 is wild to me.

You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right? And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.

You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right?

You know it costs money to gas, maintain, insure, and/or rent a car right?

And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.

Fact of the matter is you were speeding before they adjusted the sign, it is your responsibility as a driver to obey all posted signage, and if you cannot abide by the rules of the road as well as be capable of reading and responding to signage I do not believe you should be allowed to drive because you are a risk to everyone around you.

You deserved that ticket, and I wish they had suspended your license until you were retested.

What a strange disconnected reality you live in.

That or you’re just a troll.

Either way im blocking your dumbass.

LOL, a suspended licence for going 7 kms over the regular speed limit. Yeah, you’re a rational person alright, and I should take any argument you have seriously. Ok.

And you know that you don’t have to gas, maintain, insure or rent a car that you borrow from a friend of family member, right?

Going 7 over the regular limit does not make me a danger to society you absolute lunatic, and it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that signage is CLEAR and READABLE to people on the road.

Have a nice day.

You were going 17 over the posted limit, as per your story, and weren’t aware enough to know about it.

You shouldn’t have a license.

Take care.

I was going 7 over the limit as per my story, a great big 50km/h hour sign where 40 km/h was only enforced certain hours of the day, certain days of the week, certain months of the year, all of which I was expected to read within literal seconds, and didn’t slow down enough in time.

Any traffic enforcement officer would literally laugh in your face if you told them I shouldn’t have a license. Grow a brain. This will be my last post. Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron.

I believe rural school zones are sometimes 50km/h. In context the non-school zone speed limit is usually 80km/h or more, often with visibility from one horizon to the other and a sprawling parking lot, it’s not quite the same as a congested urban school with a driveway big enough to fit a single bus and dozens of cars parked along the curb.

Even when I lived in rural areas, the zones were 30kph where I am from. Parks, and playgrounds, are also generally included.

Honest to god, it’s not that hard to do 40 km/h in these zones. They post a sign telling you there’s a speed camera coming up. You just have to go 40 for like 20 meters to avoid a ticket.

Why should we socialize the cost of “fixing” the road design, when we can instead make the individuals who speed pay?

I can’t even remember the last time I even saw a cop doing speed enforcement in Toronto. Definitely not on the highways. It makes total sense to automate this, and I highly doubt anybody lost their job over it.

and the money goes to cops.

Actually most of the money goes to the company that owns and operates the speed cameras. A smaller portion goes to the city.

People won’t speed if they cannot speed safely.

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I get it, good road design helps stop speeding but the idea that safety even crosses the mind of people going 80 in a 60 is laughable.

The fines should be compounding, after each ticket the fine goes up 10% until people learn to just drive the fuckin limit.

but they punish the poor the most

They punish people who speed the most. If you make the needle on your dash point to the number that is posted on the road signs, you don’t get a ticket.

It may actually be a net positive in job creation between the installation, maintaince, and bureaucratic stuff.

Fun thing about design changes, the motorists get less frustrated.

A big part of our frustration whole driving is that (at least in Ontario) design speed MUST be at least 20kph higher than posted speed.

So yeah, you get frustrated doing 30kph on a road designed for 60kph. You get less frustrated on a road with no posted limits anywhere that jsut naturally nakes you want to drive a speed that feels safe, and happens to be 30kph.

There are more design choices than just roundabouts…

There are more design choices than just roundabouts…

Do I have to list every single one for you to get the point?