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At least 11 Toronto speed cameras vandalized this week

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  • E eatcasserole@lemmy.world

    wasting money

    Who’s got a higher salary, a cop or a camera?

    Ticketing pedestrians

    How about fuck no not in a million years. The LAST thing we need is to tell cops to go out and aggressively harass anyone who “looks distracted.”

    Even if cars were the responsibility of people walking (they aren’t, wtf?) there’s a 0% chance this could go smoothly.

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    kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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    #81

    Who’s got a higher salary, a cop or a camera?

    What’s more effective at changing bad driving behaviour, being caught in the moment and spending 10 min on the side ofbthe road getting a ticket, or getting a ticket in the mail a couple if weeks later when you’ve probably forgotten that you were even on that road at that time?

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    • P Phoenixz

      How about instead of speed cameras you change your road designs? People won’t speed if they cannot speed safely.

      Make your roads less wide. Add some curves, depending on required max speed, you make the curves larger or smaller. On lower speed roads, add obstacles to drive around.

      There are many forms of traffic management that don’t require speeding cameras but then again, speeding cameras are for making the government money, not for traffic safety

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      kent_eh@lemmy.ca
      wrote on last edited by
      #82

      People won’t speed if they cannot speed safely.

      You have more faith in humanity than I do.

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      • T tankplanker@lemmy.world

        UK we have had speed cameras for ages. There was a trend for people to either spray paint the lens or even firebomb the camera. So they had to put in a second (video) camera mounted as high as possible to protect the first camera, quite amusing that a safety camera has to be kept safe by another safety cameras, its cameras all the way down.

        Personally I think speed cameras that monitor a fixed point are pretty dumb unless that fixed point is an accident black spot such as outside a school or a red light camera for dangerous set of traffic lights. Its far better to have average speed cameras for a large section of road but those are more costly as you need way more cameras to make them work outside of motorways as you need to cover all the junctions properly.

        Latest cameras we have in testing can see if you do not have your seat belt done up or are using your phone. Just stopping people from using their phone has to be the biggest step forward we can make with modern road safety.

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        exploitedamerican@lemmy.world
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        #83

        Ah yes, the good old UK where it’s normal to arrest people for saying mean things on the internet and you’ve disarmed the working class, not to mention the UK created the biggest human rights problem in the middle east when your prime minister Balfour released the balfour declaration and now we have a settler colonial ethno nationalist apartheid state flagrantly committing genocide while using DARVO psychological abuse tactics and pretending to be the victim. thanks for all that white anglo saxon British imperialism!!!

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        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

          People vandalize speed cameras

          Toronto city council decided last week that it will install “larger, more visible and clearer” signs to warn drivers where automated speed enforcement cameras are located in the city.

          “HEY VANDALS! THE SPEED CAMERAS ARE OVER HERE!”

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          kingporkchop@lemmy.ca
          wrote on last edited by kingporkchop@lemmy.ca
          #84

          Temples fingers

          Ex…cellent!

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          • K kent_eh@lemmy.ca

            Who’s got a higher salary, a cop or a camera?

            What’s more effective at changing bad driving behaviour, being caught in the moment and spending 10 min on the side ofbthe road getting a ticket, or getting a ticket in the mail a couple if weeks later when you’ve probably forgotten that you were even on that road at that time?

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            grabthar@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by
            #85

            Then you tick the court date box and mail it back to them. Then two or three years later, you get a court date, so you dust off your form letter charter 11b challenge, send it off to all relevant parties, head down to the Winchester and wait for all of this to blow over.

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            • E exploitedamerican@lemmy.world

              Ah yes, the good old UK where it’s normal to arrest people for saying mean things on the internet and you’ve disarmed the working class, not to mention the UK created the biggest human rights problem in the middle east when your prime minister Balfour released the balfour declaration and now we have a settler colonial ethno nationalist apartheid state flagrantly committing genocide while using DARVO psychological abuse tactics and pretending to be the victim. thanks for all that white anglo saxon British imperialism!!!

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              tankplanker@lemmy.world
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              Thanks for your contribution!

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              • O orteilgenou@lemmy.world

                The Ottawa Protocol

                90 kph

                Speed camera

                50 kph

                Past speed camera

                90 kph

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                grabthar@lemmy.world
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                #87

                Nobody drives 90 in Ottawa. Especially not on the 417.

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                • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                  People vandalize speed cameras

                  Toronto city council decided last week that it will install “larger, more visible and clearer” signs to warn drivers where automated speed enforcement cameras are located in the city.

                  “HEY VANDALS! THE SPEED CAMERAS ARE OVER HERE!”

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                  steal_your_face@lemmy.ml
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #88

                  They need cameras pointing at the speed cameras to catch the vandals, and maybe cameras pointing at those cameras just in case.

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                  • steal_your_face@lemmy.mlS steal_your_face@lemmy.ml

                    They need cameras pointing at the speed cameras to catch the vandals, and maybe cameras pointing at those cameras just in case.

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                    arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                    #89

                    I would bet good money on it being only a matter of time before they vandalize the cameras watching cameras.

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                    • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                      Based on your response to my question, I am going to assume you have never seen an idiot driver in a roundabout.

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                      kurikai
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                      #90

                      Based on your response you have never seen a roundabout with raised safety platforms

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                      • F fireretardant@lemmy.world

                        At no point did the article claim a desire to ban cars, we are just asking cars to go the posted limit. The idea that hating car dependancy is classist and racist is absurd. Providing free public transit can be one of the most effective ways to lift people up in society. Plenty of people would use their electric scooter in the winter. Tons of people have fun all winter in cold conditions riding snow mobiles, the same gear that works for them could keep a scooter rider warm. The bigger issue for scooter riders is our cities refuse to maintain safe infrastructure for them.

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                        Concetta
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                        #91

                        There is no world an escooter can be ridden even 3/4 of the year in a place like where I live, doesn’t matter the gear. (Sask)

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                        • K kurikai

                          Based on your response you have never seen a roundabout with raised safety platforms

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                          arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                          #92

                          Again, you underestimate idiots.

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                          • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                            You were going 17 over the posted limit, as per your story, and weren’t aware enough to know about it.

                            Reading comprehension ain’t your strong suit, eh bud?

                            Thanks for another one. Keep it going DJ Khaled.

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                            geedubhayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #93

                            I’m not even OP. You’re something, kiddo.

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                            • G geedubhayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              I’m not even OP. You’re something, kiddo.

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                              arkouda@lemmy.ca
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #94

                              I know you aren’t. Yet you are still dying ignorantly on this hill. Again, thanks for the laugh sweetums. I won’t waste further time with you, have a good one snookiepoo.

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                              • E exploitedamerican@lemmy.world

                                Ah yes, the good old UK where it’s normal to arrest people for saying mean things on the internet and you’ve disarmed the working class, not to mention the UK created the biggest human rights problem in the middle east when your prime minister Balfour released the balfour declaration and now we have a settler colonial ethno nationalist apartheid state flagrantly committing genocide while using DARVO psychological abuse tactics and pretending to be the victim. thanks for all that white anglo saxon British imperialism!!!

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                                exploitedamerican@lemmy.world
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                                #95

                                Lmao, ill take the downvotes, better than living in lala land like the brits and not accepting the reality of what you’ve all been trying to pass off as civilized behavior for the last millennia has stained the world while normalizing genocide and exploitation. But god save the king right?

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                                • T tankplanker@lemmy.world

                                  UK we have had speed cameras for ages. There was a trend for people to either spray paint the lens or even firebomb the camera. So they had to put in a second (video) camera mounted as high as possible to protect the first camera, quite amusing that a safety camera has to be kept safe by another safety cameras, its cameras all the way down.

                                  Personally I think speed cameras that monitor a fixed point are pretty dumb unless that fixed point is an accident black spot such as outside a school or a red light camera for dangerous set of traffic lights. Its far better to have average speed cameras for a large section of road but those are more costly as you need way more cameras to make them work outside of motorways as you need to cover all the junctions properly.

                                  Latest cameras we have in testing can see if you do not have your seat belt done up or are using your phone. Just stopping people from using their phone has to be the biggest step forward we can make with modern road safety.

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                                  runawayfixer@lemmy.world
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                                  #96

                                  One of the first speed cameras I remember in Belgium was just behind the crest of a highway. Drivers would give more power to drive up the hill at the speed limit, they’d cross the crest and that same power would make them overshoot the speed limit. So they put a camera right there to maximize the fines. Without the camera there was nothing special about that spot, but with the camera there were a lot of front end collisions. Fine revenue was apparently more important than safety.

                                  Placement of new speed cameras has gotten more sensible with time fortunately, but those old speed traps are still left in place unfortunately. For highways we now have a lot of average speed tracking and that has really improved the flow of traffic. And for villages/towns, there is often a clearly visible lone camera box at the beginning of the low speed zone, those work so well that there is often no camera in them, just the box is enough.

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                                  • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                    Again, you underestimate idiots.

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                                    kurikai
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                                    #97

                                    Look up about them

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                                    • B brax@sh.itjust.works

                                      Instead of wasting money on speed cameras and reducing speeds, we should be aggressively ticketing distracted drivers and pedestrians, and people who struggle to reach the limit in the first place.

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                                      fireretardant@lemmy.world
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                                      Ticketing people for going under the limit is not wise. The biggest issue is due to inclement weather. We don’t want people driving faster than is safe for conditions due to fear of a ticket.

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                                      • K kurikai

                                        Look up about them

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                                        arkouda@lemmy.ca
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                                        #99

                                        I know what they are, that doesn’t change my point.

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                                        • A arkouda@lemmy.ca

                                          I would bet good money on it being only a matter of time before they vandalize the cameras watching cameras.

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                                          fireretardant@lemmy.world
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                                          #100

                                          It may get to a point where tax dollars are wasted having undercover cop cars, maybe even plain clothes officers, watching the cameras for vandals

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