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[...] Steve Wozniak [75th birthday]: "I gave all my Apple wealth away because wealth and power are not what I live for"

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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    niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    #74

    The Woz is BOSS!

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    • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

      That’s like saying someone is the nicest serial killer on earth

      Edit: it is disheartening seeing so many people on here defending billionaires, we are fucked as a species

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      megaultrachicken@lemmy.world
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      #75

      That’s like saying someone is the nicest serial killer on earth

      Yeah that’s a fair statement someone could make. You wanna get killed by the serial killer that just poisons you in your sleep or you wanna get killed by the one that removes your skin and dismembers you alive? See the difference?

      it is disheartening seeing so many people on here defending billionaires, we are fucked as a species

      Literally no one is doing that here (“ALL BILLIONAIRES ARE BAD”) Saying one thing isn’t as bad as the other isn’t a defense of the former.

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      • iavicenna@lemmy.worldI iavicenna@lemmy.world

        yea this is the guy Elon tried to PR himself as (and possibly succeeded for a while when he wasn’t as popular), but shit starts to smell fast.

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        duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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        #76

        There are a few real deals out there, but they never get the same attention as the con artists. Apple brought back the wrong Steve.

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        • F fauxliving@lemmy.world

          This is why all of the megarich are selfish assholes.

          The good people give their money away.

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          9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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          #77

          The good people don’t become billionaires in the first place

          You have extra money to name a hospital wing after yourself? Should have been taxed appropriately in the first place so that the hospital didnt need to sell naming rights just to fill a funding gap…

          You have extra money to donate to your family charity? Should have been paid as appropriate wages to your workers instead of accumulating in your personal net worth…

          All billionaire philanthropy is a failure of policy that allowed them to unjustly accumulate those billions through exploting others, thereby creating most of the problems that they “solve” through their philanthropy later in life

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          • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

            Can we make “secular saints” a thing? Why should we reserve the title of “Saint” specifically for the Catholic Church? I think we should just get in the habit of referring to any unambiguously good person, who has performed great acts of generosity and selflessness, as a saint. They don’t even have to be religious. If someone wants to interpret it religiously, they can say that anyone so good is almost certainly bound for Heaven, but it need not be religious. Why can’t we have secular saints? Why can’t we have Saint Stephen of San Jose or Saint Fred of Latrobe?

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            PastafARRian
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            #78

            Sure, let’s not give them a choice though. Aggressive wealth tax caps at $100M, you get a park plaque and sainthood for each billion we redistribute to UBI.

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            • R redditrefugee69@lemmynsfw.com

              I don’t understand much about Catholicism but I do know they cream their pants for “saints.”

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              lime!
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              #79

              i have basically never been exposed to it at all, except in assassin’s creed 2

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              • S sabinstargem@lemmy.today

                There is a Thexder game for the PS3 & PSP, if that interests you.

                Thexder NEO - trailer

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                xthexder@l.sw0.com
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                #80

                I did hear about the remake/remaster. I’ve never actually played it though. Maybe I should find it on an emulator. The remastered music is definitely nostalgic

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                • S smokedbillionaire@sh.itjust.works

                  Does the word “paragon” apply in this case? That’s what I think of when I see someone outside of religious context that I would aspire to emulate.

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                  woodscientist@lemmy.world
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                  #81

                  Paragon works, but it’s not really a title. Could we make “Paragon” a title? Instead of “Saint Stephen of San Jose,” we have “Paragon Stephen of San Jose.” Sounds odd, but maybe?

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                  • lime!L lime!

                    hell no i wanna live

                    fruit juice is all mostly apple anyway

                    bonus fun fact, lime doesn’t help against scurvy. the brits started cultivating limes because it’s easier than lemons, but because the steam ship took over at around the same time, travel times got shorter and nobody noticed that they don’t actually have the same effect. until the 1910 british antarctic expedition when people’s teeth started falling out despite carrying tonnes of limes

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                    faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                    I need sauce for limes not preventing scurvy. I was under the impression that the Terra Nova expedition failed because they flat ran out of rations and got stuck in a storm so they couldn’t resupply.

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                    • U ushmel

                      20 years might be pushing it, but he’d be gone 34ish years by that point. He wasn’t much of a philanthropist. Is there any Steve Jobs Parks? Plazas? His early death didn’t lend him much time to create a legacy. He’ll be known in business and tech scenes, sure, but the pop culture knowledge of him will be negligible. Does the general public know about the CEO of IBM 35+ years ago? The current crop of CEOs are like WWE wrestlers in their persona compared to Jobs. Being present for the smartphone revolution was something, but does anyone remember the CEO of the company that introduced the laptop? Jobs wasn’t a Carnegie or Rockefeller.

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                      alexanderthedead@lemmy.world
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                      #83

                      Idk, Steve Jobs has like at least 2 movies about him. Pretty sure his name will last considerably longer than 20 years on that alone.

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                      • W woodscientist@lemmy.world

                        Paragon works, but it’s not really a title. Could we make “Paragon” a title? Instead of “Saint Stephen of San Jose,” we have “Paragon Stephen of San Jose.” Sounds odd, but maybe?

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                        alexanderthedead@lemmy.world
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                        #84

                        There is (video game) precedent

                        Dragon Age: Origins Dwarves refer to their heroes/saints as paragons.

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                        • F fauxliving@lemmy.world

                          This is why all of the megarich are selfish assholes.

                          The good people give their money away.

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                          verdantsporeseasoning@lemmy.ca
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                          Part of what I liked about Rowling was that she was the first billionaire to lose billionaire status due to donating so much to charity. She had been poor & alone and understood how to support that.

                          Then she decided fucking over transfolk was her favorite nonprofit.

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                          • V valmond@lemmy.world

                            Yeah maybe he’s like bill gates and gave away large portions of his wealth, to himself…

                            Stuff like this needs to be thoroughly checked before it becomes “heartwarming”.

                            Edit: my point: don’t just trust them, verify.

                            Edit: seems to have angered the bill gates boot lickers lol

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                            floofloof@lemmy.ca
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                            Bill Gates’s wealth is listed as about $118 billion. Steve Wozniak says his is “maybe $10 million plus a couple of homes,” so perhaps $20m if they’re very fancy homes. This makes Bill Gates about $117,980,000,000 richer than Steve Wozniak - a completely different category of wealth. I’m sure there are plenty of asshole millionaires but asshole billionaires are immeasurably more dangerous. Woz couldn’t play the Bill Gates kinds games with his money even if he wanted to.

                            Anyway, I consider myself pretty left, and pretty pro-workers owning the means of production, but I think we should be going after the billionaires first, and not wasting our time on millionaires unless they’re doing something unusually bad.

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                            • V verdantsporeseasoning@lemmy.ca

                              Part of what I liked about Rowling was that she was the first billionaire to lose billionaire status due to donating so much to charity. She had been poor & alone and understood how to support that.

                              Then she decided fucking over transfolk was her favorite nonprofit.

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                              fauxliving@lemmy.world
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                              She’s a clown and a transphobe for sure.

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                              • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

                                I need sauce for limes not preventing scurvy. I was under the impression that the Terra Nova expedition failed because they flat ran out of rations and got stuck in a storm so they couldn’t resupply.

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                                lime!
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                                #88

                                oh they failed for a whole myriad of reasons, but scurvy was one of them.

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                                • F floofloof@lemmy.ca

                                  Bill Gates’s wealth is listed as about $118 billion. Steve Wozniak says his is “maybe $10 million plus a couple of homes,” so perhaps $20m if they’re very fancy homes. This makes Bill Gates about $117,980,000,000 richer than Steve Wozniak - a completely different category of wealth. I’m sure there are plenty of asshole millionaires but asshole billionaires are immeasurably more dangerous. Woz couldn’t play the Bill Gates kinds games with his money even if he wanted to.

                                  Anyway, I consider myself pretty left, and pretty pro-workers owning the means of production, but I think we should be going after the billionaires first, and not wasting our time on millionaires unless they’re doing something unusually bad.

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                                  valmond@lemmy.world
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                                  #89

                                  Sure, but my point was: don’t believe their word for it. Check it up.

                                  Edit: still can’t help yourselves sucking it up to rich people IMO. Guy lived like a billionaire his whole life and now “only” has tens of millions…

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                                  • G glimse@lemmy.world

                                    no one will know his name in 20 years.

                                    I’m not a fan of Jobs but that’s quite a claim. No one will remember one of the most successful CEOs of all time in 2 decades?

                                    Wozniak will leave the public consciousness way sooner than Jobs. Outside of tech circles, pretty much nobody knows who he is now.

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                                    noodlepoint@lemmy.world
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                                    Oh, definitely as Jobs practically created a personality cult, putting Woz literally behind the curtains.

                                    When ordinary people talk about creative geniuses who make innovative devices that change the course of history, most cases they’ll talk about Jobs, believing he came up with ideas for most if not all the gadgets that makes Apple a known fashion tech brand… despite Woz being responsible for designing and building the first Apple desktop.

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                                      ZeroOne
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                                      I still wish he used his wealth to start an Anti-Apple co-operative

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                                      • N noodlepoint@lemmy.world

                                        Oh, definitely as Jobs practically created a personality cult, putting Woz literally behind the curtains.

                                        When ordinary people talk about creative geniuses who make innovative devices that change the course of history, most cases they’ll talk about Jobs, believing he came up with ideas for most if not all the gadgets that makes Apple a known fashion tech brand… despite Woz being responsible for designing and building the first Apple desktop.

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                                        glimse@lemmy.world
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                                        Yeah, exactly. The general public thinks that Steve Jobs invented the iPhone. He’s not just some random CEO.

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                                        • lime!L lime!

                                          oh they failed for a whole myriad of reasons, but scurvy was one of them.

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                                          faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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                                          This blog doesn’t support your claim at all.

                                          This time Scott made sure to provide his men with fresh seal meat, and scurvy was not a problem in the main camp.

                                          One of Scott’s goals for the winter journey had been to determine the proper ration for sledging up on the Polar plateau, where the men would have to hike for several weeks at altitudes above 10,000 feet. After some tinkering with proportions, the men on the Winter Journey had settled on a satisfying ration, and Scott decided to adopt it unchanged for his own trip later that year: Scott’s Polar ration: 450g biscuit, 340 grams pemmican, 85g sugar, 57g butter, 24g tea, 16g cocoa. This ration contains about 4500 calories (sledging requires 6500) and no vitamin C.

                                          You said they brought ‘tonnes of limes’ and got scurvy despite that.

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