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  • I i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world

    Something always bothers me about these kinds of infiltrations. Wild Shape is a relatively low level spell. And while most NPC’s are essentially level 0 with no magic, it should at least be common knowledge in their world that the spell exists and MANY people have access to it.

    So why would the guards not be suspicious of an animal? For that matter, why do the guards not have someone constantly using detect magic? Wild Shape is far from the only magic that can be used for infiltration, seems like common sense to constantly scan for magic around an area you are trying to keep secure. I just feel like too often, DMs treat their NPCs, especially guards, as if they have zero knowledge of magic or the world they live in.

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    ptsf@lemmy.world
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    The technology to disguise a robot as an insect currently exists. Do you give thought and inspection to every fly that passes by?

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    • P ptsf@lemmy.world

      The technology to disguise a robot as an insect currently exists. Do you give thought and inspection to every fly that passes by?

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      lumisal@lemmy.world
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      Yes. They’re annoying, so I start seeking it to kill it.

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        She they just be constantly killing random birds?

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        lumisal@lemmy.world
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        Already happens in real life basically when you look at the numbers. Cats are the second biggest extincter after humans.

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          Yes. They’re annoying, so I start seeking it to kill it.

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          zombifrancis@sh.itjust.works
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          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxMpTeEf8Q&pp=ygUXZmlmdGggZWxlbWVudCBidWcgc21hc2g%3D

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            ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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            When they try the “have the druid wild shape into a horse and sell it for some quick cash only to change back under cover of darkness and flee” trick, have the buyer wait until the rest of the party is out of earshot and say “you poor thing! A fine beast like you and they’ve never had you shod! It’s cruelty, is what it is! We’re going right over to the farrier without delay!”

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              sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              … Has anyone ever just mandated an all Druid party, allowing for hybrid classing…

              … and then just basically done an Animorphs campaign?

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              • E ensign_crab@lemmy.world

                When they try the “have the druid wild shape into a horse and sell it for some quick cash only to change back under cover of darkness and flee” trick, have the buyer wait until the rest of the party is out of earshot and say “you poor thing! A fine beast like you and they’ve never had you shod! It’s cruelty, is what it is! We’re going right over to the farrier without delay!”

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                sirblastalot@ttrpg.network
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                RAW that wouldn’t do anything though.

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                • I i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world

                  Something always bothers me about these kinds of infiltrations. Wild Shape is a relatively low level spell. And while most NPC’s are essentially level 0 with no magic, it should at least be common knowledge in their world that the spell exists and MANY people have access to it.

                  So why would the guards not be suspicious of an animal? For that matter, why do the guards not have someone constantly using detect magic? Wild Shape is far from the only magic that can be used for infiltration, seems like common sense to constantly scan for magic around an area you are trying to keep secure. I just feel like too often, DMs treat their NPCs, especially guards, as if they have zero knowledge of magic or the world they live in.

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                  sirblastalot@ttrpg.network
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                  #20

                  Magic is rare in most settings.

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                    gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Ain’t it that RAW you just turn back into a humanoid with the same health as pre-wildshape?

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                    • S sirblastalot@ttrpg.network

                      RAW that wouldn’t do anything though.

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                      ensign_crab@lemmy.world
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                      What do you suppose is gonna happen to the nails when the druid switches back?

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                      • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                        Ain’t it that RAW you just turn back into a humanoid with the same health as pre-wildshape?

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                        captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        Yeah, but then you become a lone druid in a castle surrounded by guards.

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                        • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                          … Has anyone ever just mandated an all Druid party, allowing for hybrid classing…

                          … and then just basically done an Animorphs campaign?

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                          heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                          I wanted to do an all gnome campaign but my dm was racist against gnomes

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                          • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                            I wanted to do an all gnome campaign but my dm was racist against gnomes

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                            worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today
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                            I want to see a GM phrase everything in the most racist against gnomes way possible, as I play a gnome.

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                            • W worldsdumbestman@lemmy.today

                              I want to see a GM phrase everything in the most racist against gnomes way possible, as I play a gnome.

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                              heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world
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                              #26

                              I mean, dude claimed to assume everything about gnomes was an antisemitism. Dude was not Jewish, dude collected 1930s German memorabilia if you follow. Did not find that out until later. I do not want to go on and on, this guy is (most likely) not here to defend himself but his behavior was atrocious, including taking advantage of the session to make advances on everyone he was attracted to at the table whether they were in committed relationships or not.

                              If I had a halfway decent gm who made in-game racisms against gnomes, cool! I don’t really like when players do the in game racisms tho. I have had, uh, immature players who fall back on real world racisms when the well of creativity runs dry and that’s a red card

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                              • C captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                Yeah, but then you become a lone druid in a castle surrounded by guards.

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                                gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Ah yeah v good point

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                                • I i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world

                                  Something always bothers me about these kinds of infiltrations. Wild Shape is a relatively low level spell. And while most NPC’s are essentially level 0 with no magic, it should at least be common knowledge in their world that the spell exists and MANY people have access to it.

                                  So why would the guards not be suspicious of an animal? For that matter, why do the guards not have someone constantly using detect magic? Wild Shape is far from the only magic that can be used for infiltration, seems like common sense to constantly scan for magic around an area you are trying to keep secure. I just feel like too often, DMs treat their NPCs, especially guards, as if they have zero knowledge of magic or the world they live in.

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                                  vespair@lemmy.zip
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                                  I think there is some serious PC-skewing in terms of world norms. In most D&D campaigns I’ve seen, druids are fairly rare and very insular where they do exist, so the average person has only maybe even ever heard of a druid, much less chance having encountered one. I’m sure your mileage may vary by campaign and maybe my experience is the outlier, but that’s how I’ve seen it

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                                  • I i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world

                                    Something always bothers me about these kinds of infiltrations. Wild Shape is a relatively low level spell. And while most NPC’s are essentially level 0 with no magic, it should at least be common knowledge in their world that the spell exists and MANY people have access to it.

                                    So why would the guards not be suspicious of an animal? For that matter, why do the guards not have someone constantly using detect magic? Wild Shape is far from the only magic that can be used for infiltration, seems like common sense to constantly scan for magic around an area you are trying to keep secure. I just feel like too often, DMs treat their NPCs, especially guards, as if they have zero knowledge of magic or the world they live in.

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                                    derpykat5@lemmy.world
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                                    What do you think they have Igor for?

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                                    • gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                      Ain’t it that RAW you just turn back into a humanoid with the same health as pre-wildshape?

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                                      h3ll3rsh4nks@ani.social
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                                      In the 2024 rules you don’t take the animal forms HP so the druid in this case could easily tank that hit from Igor since they still have their base hp and you need to be at least level 8 to have a form with fly speed so plenty of hp in that pool.

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                                      • S sirblastalot@ttrpg.network

                                        Magic is rare in most settings.

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                                        honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                        Which is dumb in a high fantasy setting, imo.

                                        Using low magic is a crutch for the DM in order to control the actions of the PCs.

                                        It is much easier to manage mundane actions than it is to manage actions fueled by wild magic. But they lead to less interesting stories.

                                        I have much more fun DMing a setting like old Netheril. The stuff the PCs can do blow my mind. You just need to be able to fly by the seat of your pants.

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                                        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.world

                                          I mean, dude claimed to assume everything about gnomes was an antisemitism. Dude was not Jewish, dude collected 1930s German memorabilia if you follow. Did not find that out until later. I do not want to go on and on, this guy is (most likely) not here to defend himself but his behavior was atrocious, including taking advantage of the session to make advances on everyone he was attracted to at the table whether they were in committed relationships or not.

                                          If I had a halfway decent gm who made in-game racisms against gnomes, cool! I don’t really like when players do the in game racisms tho. I have had, uh, immature players who fall back on real world racisms when the well of creativity runs dry and that’s a red card

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                                          sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          #32

                                          The GameMaster’s barely disguised projection of “actually, you’re racist!!!”

                                          …

                                          including taking advantage of the session to make advances on everyone he was attracted to at the table whether they were in committed relationships or not.

                                          Wait, what?

                                          Oh god.

                                          Ah yes, the DnD dating service, producing God-tier cringe on a regular basis since at least the 1980s.

                                          Holy shit, I’m just… now I’m just seeing a Funkopop wall, an actual literal family heirloom Nazi flag, a trillby called a fedora, an AppleJack body pillow, a pre-prepared argument for why body odor is actually attractive…

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