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What Would It Take for Canada to Build Its Own Fighter Jets Again?

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  • B breezeblock@lemmy.ca

    The real concern is not “which aircraft to buy” — its “in 20 years will Canada be able to even arm itself in a world of disrupted supply chains?”

    Agreed that drones are tactically important, but tanks and fighters ships are strategically important, and will never go out of style.

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    ulrich_the_old@lemmy.ca
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    I have seen plenty of tanks and ships crippled or destroyed by drones…

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      fleur_@aussie.zone
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      Deep pockets and a spine

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      • F fleur_@aussie.zone

        Deep pockets and a spine

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        canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        The cost isn’t actually much higher for the Gripen proposal this is about, although I’m not sure if that leaves things like the actual factories out.

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        • O orteilgenou@lemmy.world

          The future is in drones. If Canada should sink funding into anything, it should be that.

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          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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          I’ve wondered about just SAMs and MANPADs as an alternative to any new fighter jet. We can’t really trust the F-35 and the alternatives (the Gripen E) might not be survivable, depending on a bunch of data I don’t have.

          Sure, they can’t be used offensively, but that’s not the main thing I worry about in the near future.

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          • H hellsbelle@sh.itjust.works

            At -60C not much works well.

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            canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            #16

            I mean, -60 is extremely unusual even in the high arctic, but the point stands at “just” -40.

            It’s usually more a matter of designers not bothering with severe cold conditions than any fundamental issue. In a pinch, I imagine just getting an FPV drone up to temperature in a tent or sleeping bag would give you a bit of range. For more, you’d need to insulate it and add a little internal heater, but that seems doable.

            Most of what happens in the arctic is going to involve long-distance gas (or nuclear) powered equipment anyway. It’s big and sparsely populated.

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            • H hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone

              Drones are the future, fuck building fighters or bombers.

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              canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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              #17

              Sort of? Existing software isn’t smart enough to fight a battle on it’s own, and electronic warfare is a real thing that makes communications hard. In a full-blown war situation there’s appeal in having a human being in a cockpit close to possible targets.

              The things we worry about in Canada are more specific, though. For example, we probably don’t need long-range bombers of our own.

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              • BaroqueInMindB BaroqueInMind

                It would take billions of tax payer dollars and decades

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                hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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                No more than what we’re spending on the F35. We could design 10 new aircraft for that price

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                • F fleur_@aussie.zone

                  Deep pockets and a spine

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                  corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                  And time. Don’t forget time.

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                  • O orteilgenou@lemmy.world

                    The future is in drones. If Canada should sink funding into anything, it should be that.

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                    corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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                    drones. If Canada should sink funding into anything, it should be that.

                    ECM says what?

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                    • C corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca

                      drones. If Canada should sink funding into anything, it should be that.

                      ECM says what?

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                      fnord@lemmy.ca
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                      Fibre optic drone says hi.

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