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  • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

    What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

    Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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    The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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    @VisualStuart

    Department of White Security is a terrorist organization.

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    • Kevin Karhan :verified:K Kevin Karhan :verified:

      @the_turtle @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart not to mention the #NRA really are #bootlickers who only seem to have #TokenMembers of marginalized grouping.

      • No wounder most folks I know either are #SRA members or would like to join them!
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      @kkarhan @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart the astonishing silence from the "good guys with guns" is kind of amusing, now that it turns out the big threat isn't brown people from South America or Africa, it's an orange guy from Queens who is only about 25 miles away.

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      • Mab_813M Mab_813

        @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

        In my region, it wasn't GESTAPO who murdered concentration camp inmates who had managed to flee from Mauthausen in 1945, it was SS and Hitlerjugend boys and other locals.
        (And they also went from door to door).

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        @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

        Before we go splitting hairs, please keep in mind conservatives have been systematically attacking our educational system since the mid-50s, and a lot of people wouldn't know who the Hitlerjungend were. Shit, many of us don't even know our OWN history. They whitewashed the hell out of it. We never learned about the Trail of Tears or Tulsa Massacre, and I was born in 1960.

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        • LaukidhL Laukidh

          @VisualStuart “Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.””

          The heck kind of agreement?

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          @Laukidh @VisualStuart

          "Let us invade your sovereignty and yank anyone we want out off your land for any reason and we'll give you those three people back. Maybe. Or not. We'll get back to you."

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          • peterfisherbooks.com=freescifyP peterfisherbooks.com=freescify

            @TrimTab @VisualStuart historically the people vote for whoever promises copius looting opportunities from pillaging the undesirables. unfortunately there's a viscous rumour going around the green party plans to pay out in trump coins instead of dhs contracts so they don't get any love at the polls. lettuce for everyone #votegreen

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            @peterfisherbooks @TrimTab @VisualStuart

            *vicious

            sorry....oil is viscous.

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            • The TurtleT The Turtle

              @kkarhan @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart the astonishing silence from the "good guys with guns" is kind of amusing, now that it turns out the big threat isn't brown people from South America or Africa, it's an orange guy from Queens who is only about 25 miles away.

              Kevin Karhan :verified:K This user is from outside of this forum
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              @the_turtle @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart obviously the #NRA is part of the problem and their #SilenceIsConsent!

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              • Possibly AI-generated RybotCalbearo 🇪🇸🎾C Possibly AI-generated RybotCalbearo 🇪🇸🎾

                @VisualStuart this is kidnapping.

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                @calbearo@convo.casa Not to be rude, but have you actually been paying attention? They've been kidnapping and abusing people for a while now for no real reason, just making one up to justify it.

                @VisualStuart@pdx.social

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                • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                  What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                  Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                  Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                  The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                  wrote last edited by
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                  @VisualStuart@pdx.social So where did they immigrate from?

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                  • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                    What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                    Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                    Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                    The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                    @VisualStuart This is unacceptable.

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                    • Oma_Trisha_FO Oma_Trisha_F

                      @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                      Before we go splitting hairs, please keep in mind conservatives have been systematically attacking our educational system since the mid-50s, and a lot of people wouldn't know who the Hitlerjungend were. Shit, many of us don't even know our OWN history. They whitewashed the hell out of it. We never learned about the Trail of Tears or Tulsa Massacre, and I was born in 1960.

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                      @Oma_Trisha_F @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                      Oh sure, no one can be expected to know that sort of details about some other country's history!

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                      • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                        What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                        Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                        Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                        The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                        @VisualStuart What's the "Immigration agreement" going to look like?

                        We, The ICE thugs, hereby admit that our ancestors immigrated to the US and invaded your land by force and are therefore going to deport ourselves back to where we came.from. Mostly ireland, england and germany.

                        Folks! TBH: We don't want you back! Go take the next SS Atlantic!

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                        • Mab_813M Mab_813

                          @Oma_Trisha_F @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                          Oh sure, no one can be expected to know that sort of details about some other country's history!

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                          @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                          I know a lot because 1) I've always been fascinated with history and had a real thing for learning about the Holocaust -- not morbid curiosity, but more wonder about how a group of people could be so convinced so much wrong was right.....

                          ...and 2) my second husband's parents were both Mischling, living in a suburb of Berlin during WWII, allowed to survive because his dad was a master mechanic. They came here in 1952. 1/2

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                          • Oma_Trisha_FO Oma_Trisha_F

                            @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                            I know a lot because 1) I've always been fascinated with history and had a real thing for learning about the Holocaust -- not morbid curiosity, but more wonder about how a group of people could be so convinced so much wrong was right.....

                            ...and 2) my second husband's parents were both Mischling, living in a suburb of Berlin during WWII, allowed to survive because his dad was a master mechanic. They came here in 1952. 1/2

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                            @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                            His mom brought a whole folder of papers with her when they came over. I saw them all. It was appalling and fascinating at the same time. I know the fool here isn't keeping these kinds of records. We may never have the kind of archives the Germans had. People here just disappear. I don't know if that's good or bad. Anyway, I donated the papers to the Florida Holocaust Museum after he died. His family didn't want them.

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                            • Oma_Trisha_FO Oma_Trisha_F

                              @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                              His mom brought a whole folder of papers with her when they came over. I saw them all. It was appalling and fascinating at the same time. I know the fool here isn't keeping these kinds of records. We may never have the kind of archives the Germans had. People here just disappear. I don't know if that's good or bad. Anyway, I donated the papers to the Florida Holocaust Museum after he died. His family didn't want them.

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                              @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                              When desegregation became law in 1954, conservative white supremacists here started systematically attacking our educational system, which had already been whitewashing our history. It's only become worse. They don't teach the truth because admitting our crimes has never been deemed acceptable.

                              We have a horrible price to pay for what we've allowed to happen here.

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                              • Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:M Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:

                                @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart Referring to ICE as the Gestapo might imply that they are shrewd political operators, but this group of thugs is much closer to a classic American lynch mob.

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                                @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @VisualStuart

                                The average ICE personell does not have to be political operators. It can be assumed that in Nazi Germany, many people doing terrible things didn't hate Jews, still they helped killing them. See also: Hanna Arendt's title “the banality of evil”.

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                                • Oma_Trisha_FO Oma_Trisha_F

                                  @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                                  When desegregation became law in 1954, conservative white supremacists here started systematically attacking our educational system, which had already been whitewashing our history. It's only become worse. They don't teach the truth because admitting our crimes has never been deemed acceptable.

                                  We have a horrible price to pay for what we've allowed to happen here.

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                                  @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                                  Those of us who were determined to learn did so -- the rest have been too complacent to explore any further. It's sad. We have lost so much knowledge,, and we're suffering as a result.

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                                  • Oma_Trisha_FO Oma_Trisha_F

                                    @Mab_813 @mikemccaffrey @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart

                                    His mom brought a whole folder of papers with her when they came over. I saw them all. It was appalling and fascinating at the same time. I know the fool here isn't keeping these kinds of records. We may never have the kind of archives the Germans had. People here just disappear. I don't know if that's good or bad. Anyway, I donated the papers to the Florida Holocaust Museum after he died. His family didn't want them.

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                                    @Oma_Trisha_F Wow! Heartbreaking. Thank you for making sure the records were archived.

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                                    • TrimTab 🇺🇦T TrimTab 🇺🇦

                                      @VisualStuart Native Americans aren't white enough. That's a crime with this government.

                                      And where are the dems? Slurping scum off the underbrush somewhere like the spineless slugs they are.

                                      I say to hell with Blue and Red. They are both failures. We need new and better ideas in govt.

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                                      @TrimTab @VisualStuart Great long term plan. Go for it. But for now, and I mean right now, you need to get Trump's people the FUCK out of power and into prisons.

                                      Right now. Really.

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                                      • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                        What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                        Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                        Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                        The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                        @VisualStuart Pathetic. The tribal members are more justified in holding/deporting the ICE agents than the other way around.

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