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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • A aralakh@lemmy.ca

    Heck yes, made more sense to buy a steam deck than upgrade my PC.

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    Bakkoda
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    I had lost all interest in games for a while. Desktop just ended up with me tinkering in the homelab. Steam deck has been so great to fall in love with gaming again.

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    • goodtoknow@lemmy.caG goodtoknow@lemmy.ca

      GTX 1060 6Gb still going strong!

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      lost_faith
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      #95

      That was a beautiful card, bought to use with vr, my gf is still rockin that system

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      • C cm0002@lemmy.world

        Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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        chunes@lemmy.world
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        #96

        I stopped maintaining a AAA-capable rig in 2016. I’ve been playing indies since and haven’t felt left out whatsoever.

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        • D damage@feddit.it

          Somehow 4k resolution got a bad rep in the computing world, with people opposing it for both play and productivity.

          “You can’t see the difference at 50cm away!” or something like that. Must be bad eyesight I guess.

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          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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          Does it really help gameplay on the average monitor? If it is a fast paced game Im not even paying attention to pixels

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          • A alaik@lemmy.zip

            Jesus christ man. I thought I was slumming it with a 3070.

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            duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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            hahahahahahahaha.

            rx580

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            • ArxCyberwolfS ArxCyberwolf

              I bought a 3070 for far more than I should’ve back when that was new, and I don’t plan to make that mistake twice. This GPU is likely going to be staying in this PC til it croaks. Never felt the need for anything more powerful anyway, it runs everything I need it to on high settings.

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              keyez@lemmy.world
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              #99

              Same I got a 3080 12G a few months after release for $1k from EVGA and it’s the most I’ve ever spent on a computer part. Next upgrade is def gonna be in the 600-700 range, not making that mistake again.

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              • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                candyman337
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                #100

                It’s just because I’m not impressed, like the raster performance bump for 1440p was just not worth the price jump at all. On top of that they have manufacturing issues and issues with their stupid 12 pin connector? And all the shit on the business side not providing drivers to reviewers etc. Fuuucccckk all that man. I’m waiting until AMD gets a little better with ray tracing and switching to team red.

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                • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                  Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                  phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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                  I bought my most expensive dream machine last year (when the RTX-4090 was still the best) and I am proud of it. I hope it’ll be my right for at least 10 years.

                  But it was expensive.

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                  • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                    Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                    moktor@lemmy.world
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                    #102

                    I’m still surviving on my RX580 4GB. Limping along these days, but no way I can justify the price of a new GPU.

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                    • M moktor@lemmy.world

                      I’m still surviving on my RX580 4GB. Limping along these days, but no way I can justify the price of a new GPU.

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                      LiveLM
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                      #103

                      Same, but the 8GB edition.
                      UE5 runs like a tragedy

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                      • C chunes@lemmy.world

                        I stopped maintaining a AAA-capable rig in 2016. I’ve been playing indies since and haven’t felt left out whatsoever.

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                        tea@lemmy.today
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                        Indies are great. I can play AAA titles but don’t really ever… It seems like that is where the folks with the most creativity are focusing their energy anyways.

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                        • M moktor@lemmy.world

                          I’m still surviving on my RX580 4GB. Limping along these days, but no way I can justify the price of a new GPU.

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                          theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com
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                          #105

                          R9 380x does more than I need it too.

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                          • Lord WiggleL Lord Wiggle

                            Nvidia is one of the most evil companies out there, responsible for killing nearly all other GPU producers destroying the market.

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                            grindinggears@lemmy.ca
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                            #106

                            So is AMD with their availability of literally three video cards in stock for all of North America at launch. Which in turn just fuels the scalpers. Downvote this all you want guys, AMD is just as complicit in all of this, they’ve fuelled this bullshit just as much.

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                            • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                              Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                              chickenladyloveslife@lemmy.world
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                              I’m enjoying the fact that I haven’t played video games in about 20 years now. The last one I played regularly was Quake II for Super Nintendo (and that was a few years old even then). If I ever get back into gaming, I can just pick up where I left off and play a bunch of new-to-me games on ancient, cheap technology. Like, were gamers less happy in 2005 than they are today? I don’t think so.

                              Shit, I still play Civilization III from time to time and it’s fine.

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                              • T theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com

                                R9 380x does more than I need it too.

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                                fillicia@sh.itjust.works
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                                If it wasn’t for video format compatibility (av1 mostly) then I would still some R9 fury coil whine as background noise.

                                The R9’s were really something.

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                                • C chickenladyloveslife@lemmy.world

                                  I’m enjoying the fact that I haven’t played video games in about 20 years now. The last one I played regularly was Quake II for Super Nintendo (and that was a few years old even then). If I ever get back into gaming, I can just pick up where I left off and play a bunch of new-to-me games on ancient, cheap technology. Like, were gamers less happy in 2005 than they are today? I don’t think so.

                                  Shit, I still play Civilization III from time to time and it’s fine.

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                                  gamegod@lemmy.ca
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                                  That you misremembered the generation of Nintendo console that Quake 2 was on makes this the perfect chefs kiss millennial boomer comment, lol.

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                                  • E endeavor@sopuli.xyz

                                    You pay ton more money for a screen thats ppi is too dense to matter only to to pay ton more money for a pc to still run it at terrible framerate with lowered settings and fake frames.

                                    4k is a pure scam.

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                                    cybranm@feddit.nu
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                                    Have you tried 4k? The difference is definitely noticeable unless you play on like a 20" screen

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                                    • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                      I stopped maintaining a AAA-capable rig in 2016. I’ve been playing indies since and haven’t felt left out whatsoever.

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                                      motoash@lemmy.world
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                                      #111

                                      Don’t worry, you haven’t missed anything. Sure, the games are prettier, but most of them are designed and written more poorly than 99% of indie titles…

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                                      • S sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        In the US, a new RTX 5090 currently costs $2899 at NewEgg, and has a max power draw of 575 watts.

                                        (Lowest price I can find)

                                        … That is a GPU, with roughly the cost and power usage of an entire, quite high end, gaming PC from 5 years ago… or even just a reasonably high end PC from right now.

                                        …

                                        The entire move to the realtime raytracing paradigm, which has enabled AAA game devs to get very sloppy with development by not really bothering to optimize any lighting, nor textures… which has necessitated the invention of intelligent temporal frame upscaling, and frame generation… the whole, originally advertised point of this all was to make hi fidelity 4k gaming an affordable reality.

                                        This reality is a farce.

                                        …

                                        Meanwhile, if you jump down to 1440p, well, I’ve got a future build plan sitting in a NewEgg wishlist right now.

                                        RX 9070 (220 W) + Minisforum BD795i SE (mobo + non removeable, high end AMD laptop CPU with performance comparable to a 9900X, but about half the wattage draw) … so far my pretax total for the whole build is under $1500, and, while I need to double and triple check this, I think the math on the power draw works out to a 650 Watt power supply being all you’d need… potentially with enough room to also add in some extra internal HDD storage drives, ie, you’ve got leftover wattage headroom.

                                        If you want to go a bit over the $1500 mark, you could fit this all in a console sized ITX case.

                                        That is almost half the cost as the RTX 5090 alone, and will get you over 90fps in almost all modern games, with ultra settings at 1440p, though you will have to futz around with intelligent upscaling and frame gen if you want realtime raytracing as well with similar framerates, and realistically, probably wait another quarter or two for AMD driver support and FSR 4 to become a bit more mature and properly implemented in said games.

                                        Or you could swap out for a maybe a 5070 (non TI, the TI is $1000 more) Nvidia card, but seeing as I’m making a linux gaming pc, you know, for the performance boost from not running Windows, AMD mesa drivers are where you wanna be.

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                                        cybranm@feddit.nu
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                                        The entire move to the realtime raytracing paradigm, which has enabled AAA game devs to get very sloppy with development by not really bothering to optimize any lighting, nor textures

                                        You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about here. Ray tracing has nothing to do with textures and very few games force you to use RT. What is “allowing” devs to skimp on optimization (which is also questionable, older games weren’t perfect either) is DLSS and other dynamic resolution + upscaling tech

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                                        • J jordanz@lemmy.world

                                          When did it just become expected that everybody would upgrade GPU’s every year and that’s suppose to be normal? I don’t understand people upgraded phones every year either. Both of those things are high cost for minimal gains between years. You really need 3+ years for any meaningful gains. Especially over the last few years.

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                                          Cethin
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                                          It’s never been normal to upgrade every year, and it still isn’t. Every three years is probably still more frequent than normal. The issue is there haven’t been reasonable prices for cards for like 8 years, and it’s worse more recently. People who are “due” for an upgrade aren’t because it’s unaffordable.

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