Yes its pointless, most noticable is the low frame rate and lowered graphics to make the game playable. High fps is more noticable and useful. Blind tests confirmed that, even the one ltt did.

2k could be argued is solid but even then the ppi is so dense already it does not really matter.

Edit: then again there is some research showing people preceive fps and ppindifferently so it may be 4k makes sense for some while for others its really overpriced 2k that no pc can run.

Ex-fucking-actly!

Ajajaja, gamers are skipping. Yeah, they do. And yet 5090 is still somehow out of stock. No matter the price or state of gaming. We all know major tech went AI direction disregarding average Joe about either they want or not to go AI. The prices are not for gamers. The prices are for whales, AI companies and enthusiasts.

Oh totes. NVIDIA continuing to lie even more blatantly to their face, driver bricking issues on updates, missing GPU ROPS performance, even more burn problems with a connector they knew continued to be problematic and lied about it, they and their retail partners releasing very limited inventory and then serving internal scalping while also being increasingly hostile to the rest of their consumers, ray tracing performance improvements they have to exclusive push in certain games and the newest most expensive hardware to actually get any benefit from their cards, false MSRP pricing and no recourse for long time loyal customers except a lottery in the US while the rest of the regions get screwed. Totes just that it’s “too expensive”, because when have gamers ever splurged on their hobby?

Pretty wise, that’s the generation before the 12HVPWR connectors started burning up.

All I want is more VRAM, it can already play all the games I want.

I’m sitting on a 3060 TI and waiting for the 40-series prices to drop further. Ain’t no universe where I would pay full price for the newest gens. I don’t need to render anything for work with my PC, so a 2-3 year old GPU will do just fine

Afaik the 2080was the last FE with a regular PCIe power connector.

Don’t think I’ll be moving on from my 7900XTX for a long while. Quite pleased with it.

Exact same here and I’m upgrading any time soon. MHWilds runs like ass no matter the card and I’m back to playing Hoi4 in the mean time.

But with our new system we can make up 10x as many fake frames to cram between your real ones, giving you 2500 FPS! Isn’t that awesome???

Why not just buy a cheaper one? X060 or X070 series is usually fine in price and runs everything at high enough settings. Flagship is for maxed out everything on 4k+ resolutions. And in those cases, everything else is larger and more expensive as well; the monitor needs to be 4k, huge ass PSU, large case to fit the PSU and card in, even the power draw and energy… costs just start growing exponentially.

For me, with a 2080 already, I would have to spend much more than what my gpu was worth to have any significant upgrade. It’s just not worth it.

Lezgooo 1070 crew reporting in (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

If consoles can last 6-8 years per gen so can my PC.

Your PC can run 796 of the top 1000 most popular games listed on PCGameBenchmark - at a recommended system level.

That’s more than good enough for me.

I don’t remember exactly when I built this PC but I want to say right before covid, and I haven’t felt any need for an upgrade yet.

Not surprised. Many of these high end GPUs are bought not for gaming but for bitcoin mining and demand has driven prices beyond MSRP in some cases. Stupidly power hungry and overpriced.

My GPU which is an RTX2060 is getting a little long in the tooth and I’ll hand it off to one of the kids for their PC but I need to find something that is a tangible performance improvement without costing eleventy stupid dollars. Nvidia seems to be lying a lot about the performance of that 5060 so I might look at AMD or Intel next time around. Probably need to replace my PSU while I’m at it.

Anyone that preorders a digital game is a dummy. Preorders were created to assure you got some of the limited physical stock.

I play in 1080p so can’t comment on 4k but I can confirm fps doesn’t seem to affect me after 30fps. I don’t perceive a noticeable difference between 30, 60, 120fps. Haven’t played higher than that. I suspect 4k would probably look better to me than a higher fps though. But I’m happy with 30-60fps and 1080p so…

I don’t mean to embarrass you, but you were also supposed to say “AI!”

Ain’t nobody got time (money) for that!

That is a prominent example of forced RT… basically, as I described with the TAA example in my other reply…

idTech 8 seems to be the first engine that just literally requires RT for its entire render pipeline to work.

They could theoretically build another version of it off of vulkan-base, to enable you to be able to turn RT off… but that would likely be a massive amount of work.

On the bright side… at least the idTech engines are actually well coded, and they put a lot of time into making the engine actually very good.

I didn’t follow the marketing ecosystem for Doom Dark Ages, but it would have been really shitty if they did not include ‘you need a GPU with RT cores’.

…

On the other end of the engine spectrum:

Bethesda… yeah, they have entirely lost control of their engine, it is mangled mess of nonsense, the latest Oblivion remaster just uses UE to render things slapped on top of Gamebryo, because no one at Bethesda can actually code worth a damn.

Compare that to oh I dunno, the Source engine.

Go play TitanFall 2. 10 year old game now, built on a modified version of the Portal 2 Source engine.

Still looks great, runs very efficiently, can scale down to older hardware.

Ok, now go play HL Alyx. If you don’t have VR, there are mods that do a decent job of converting it into M+K.

Looks great, runs efficiently.

None of them use RT.

Because you don’t need to, if you take the time to actually optimize both your engine and game design.