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Gamers Are Reportedly Skipping GPU Upgrades Due to Soaring Prices — Paying Bills Takes Priority Over Chasing NVIDIA’s RTX 5090

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  • P polarkraken@programming.dev

    I don’t mean to embarrass you, but you were also supposed to say “AI!”

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    el_bhm@lemm.ee
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    #150

    Points with a finger and laughs

    Look at that loser not using AI

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    • R rvtv95xbeo@sh.itjust.works

      But with our new system we can make up 10x as many fake frames to cram between your real ones, giving you 2500 FPS! Isn’t that awesome???

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      blackmist@feddit.uk
      wrote on last edited by
      #151

      Bullshitted pixels per second seem to be the new currency.

      It may look smooth in videos, but 30fps upframed(?) to 120fps will still feel like a 30fps game.

      Modern TVs do the same shit, and it both looks and feels like ass. And not good ass.

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      • V valmond@lemmy.world

        My kid got the 2060, I bought a RX 6400, I don’t need the hairy arms any more.

        Then again I have become old and grumpy, playing old games.

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        whatyouneed@lemmy.world
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        #152

        Hell, I’m still rocking with a GTX 950. It runs Left for Dead 2 and Team Fortress 2, what more do I need?

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        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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          matriks404@lemmy.world
          wrote on last edited by matriks404@lemmy.world
          #153

          I am still on my GTX 1060 3 GB, probably worth about $50 at this point lol

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          • C cm0002@lemmy.world

            Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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            t_berium@lemmy.world
            wrote on last edited by
            #154

            I remember when High-end-GPUs were around 500 €.

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            • Lord WiggleL Lord Wiggle

              unless they’re rich or actually need it for something important

              Fucking youtubers and crypto miners.

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              pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              wrote on last edited by
              #155

              Crypto mining with GPUs is dead, the only relevant mining uses ASICs now, so it would be more accurate to say:

              Fucking youtubers and AI.

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              • M matriks404@lemmy.world

                I am still on my GTX 1060 3 GB, probably worth about $50 at this point lol

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                skyezopen@lemmy.world
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                #156

                I ran vr on one of those. Not well, but well enough.

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                • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                  Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                  demognomicon@lemmy.world
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #157

                  I have a 4090. I don’t see any reason to pay $4K+ for fake frames and a few % better performance. Maybe post Trump next gen and/or if prices become reasonable and cables stop melting.

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                  • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                    Uhhh, I went from a Radeon 1090 (or whatever they’re called, it’s an older numbering scheme from ~2010) to a Nvidia 780 to an Nvidia 3070 TI. Skipping upgrades is normal. Console games effectively do that as well. It’s normal to not buy a GPU every year.

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                    46_and_2@lemmy.world
                    wrote on last edited by 46_and_2@lemmy.world
                    #158

                    As long as you make an upgrade that’s equivalent or better than the current console generation, you’re then basically good-to-go until the next generation of consoles comes.

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                    • 4 46_and_2@lemmy.world

                      As long as you make an upgrade that’s equivalent or better than the current console generation, you’re then basically good-to-go until the next generation of consoles comes.

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                      JackbyDev
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                      #159

                      I don’t really care if my current graphics are better or worse than the current console generation, it was just an illustration comparing PC gaming to console gaming.

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                      • D demognomicon@lemmy.world

                        I have a 4090. I don’t see any reason to pay $4K+ for fake frames and a few % better performance. Maybe post Trump next gen and/or if prices become reasonable and cables stop melting.

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                        critical_thinker@lemm.ee
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                        #160

                        I don’t think the 5090 has been 4k in months in terms of average sale price. 4k was basically March. 3k is pretty common now as a listed scalp price, and completed sales on fleabay seem to be 2600-2800 commonly now.

                        The problem is that 2k was too much to begin with though. It should be cheaper, but they are selling ML cards at such a markup with true literal endless demand currently, there’s zero reason to put any focus at all on the gaming segment beyond a token offering that raises the margin for them, so business wise they are doing great I guess?

                        As a 9070xt and 6800xt owner, it feels like AMD is practically done with the gpu market. It just sucks for everyone that the gpu monopoly is here, presumably to stay. Feels like backroom deals creating a noncompetitive landscape must be prevalent, plus a total stranglehold with artificial monopoly of code compatibility from nvidia’s side make hardware irrelevant.

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                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                          radiofreearabia@lemmy.world
                          wrote on last edited by radiofreearabia@lemmy.world
                          #161

                          I just looked up the price and I was “Yikes!”. You can get a PS5 Pro + optional Blu-ray drive, Steam Deck OLED, Nintendo Switch 2 and still have plenty of money left to spend on games.

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                          • R Robust Mirror

                            I play in 1080p so can’t comment on 4k but I can confirm fps doesn’t seem to affect me after 30fps. I don’t perceive a noticeable difference between 30, 60, 120fps. Haven’t played higher than that. I suspect 4k would probably look better to me than a higher fps though. But I’m happy with 30-60fps and 1080p so…

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                            endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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                            #162

                            I went to 2k 100hz uw from 1080p 144hz. I stopped noticing the increased framerate pretty quickly as the “mouse so smooth” effects wear off fast. But the ultrawide huge fov is a massive plus. I don’t notice the resolution increase at all beyond lower frames and more text on screen in docs.

                            Laptops 4k is just 1080p with extra battery drain and worse performance.

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                            • D demognomicon@lemmy.world

                              I have a 4090. I don’t see any reason to pay $4K+ for fake frames and a few % better performance. Maybe post Trump next gen and/or if prices become reasonable and cables stop melting.

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                              boonhet@lemm.ee
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                              #163

                              fake frames

                              And that’s my main problem with what the industry has become. Nvidia always had sizable jumps generation to generation, in raw performance. They STILL get better raw performance, but now it’s nowhere near impressive enough and they have to add their fake frame technologies into their graphs. Don’t get me wrong, they always had questionable marketing tactics, but now it’s getting even worse.

                              No idea when I’m replacing my 3060ti, but it won’t be nVidia.

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                              • C critical_thinker@lemm.ee

                                I don’t think the 5090 has been 4k in months in terms of average sale price. 4k was basically March. 3k is pretty common now as a listed scalp price, and completed sales on fleabay seem to be 2600-2800 commonly now.

                                The problem is that 2k was too much to begin with though. It should be cheaper, but they are selling ML cards at such a markup with true literal endless demand currently, there’s zero reason to put any focus at all on the gaming segment beyond a token offering that raises the margin for them, so business wise they are doing great I guess?

                                As a 9070xt and 6800xt owner, it feels like AMD is practically done with the gpu market. It just sucks for everyone that the gpu monopoly is here, presumably to stay. Feels like backroom deals creating a noncompetitive landscape must be prevalent, plus a total stranglehold with artificial monopoly of code compatibility from nvidia’s side make hardware irrelevant.

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                                brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                                wrote on last edited by brucethemoose@lemmy.world
                                #164

                                One issue is everyone is supply constrained by TSMC. Even Arc Battlemage is OOS at MSRP.

                                I bet Intel is kicking themselves for using TSMC. It kinda made sense when they decided years ago, but holy heck, they’d be swimming in market share if they used their own fabs instead (and kept the bigger die).

                                I feel like another is… marketing?

                                Like, many buyers just impulse buy, or go with what some shill recommended in a feed. Doesn’t matter how competitive anything is anymore.

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                                • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                  Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                  finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                                  #165

                                  I’m ngl, finances had no impact on my decisions to stay at 3080. Performance and support did. Everything I want to play runs at least 60 to 180 fps with my current loadout. I’m also afraid once Windows 10 LTSC dies I won’t be able to use a high end GPU with Linux anyways.

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                                  • C critical_thinker@lemm.ee

                                    I don’t think the 5090 has been 4k in months in terms of average sale price. 4k was basically March. 3k is pretty common now as a listed scalp price, and completed sales on fleabay seem to be 2600-2800 commonly now.

                                    The problem is that 2k was too much to begin with though. It should be cheaper, but they are selling ML cards at such a markup with true literal endless demand currently, there’s zero reason to put any focus at all on the gaming segment beyond a token offering that raises the margin for them, so business wise they are doing great I guess?

                                    As a 9070xt and 6800xt owner, it feels like AMD is practically done with the gpu market. It just sucks for everyone that the gpu monopoly is here, presumably to stay. Feels like backroom deals creating a noncompetitive landscape must be prevalent, plus a total stranglehold with artificial monopoly of code compatibility from nvidia’s side make hardware irrelevant.

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                                    finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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                                    #166

                                    Technically Intel is also releasing some cheapo GPUs in similar capability to nVidia but they all have the same manufacturers anyways.

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                                    • A arc99@lemmy.world

                                      Not surprised. Many of these high end GPUs are bought not for gaming but for bitcoin mining and demand has driven prices beyond MSRP in some cases. Stupidly power hungry and overpriced.

                                      My GPU which is an RTX2060 is getting a little long in the tooth and I’ll hand it off to one of the kids for their PC but I need to find something that is a tangible performance improvement without costing eleventy stupid dollars. Nvidia seems to be lying a lot about the performance of that 5060 so I might look at AMD or Intel next time around. Probably need to replace my PSU while I’m at it.

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                                      DefederateLemmyMl
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                                      #167

                                      bitcoin mining

                                      That’s a thing of the past, not profitable anymore unless you use ASIC miners. Some people still GPU mine it on niche coins, but it’s nowhere near the scale as it was during the bitcoin and ethereum craze a few years ago.

                                      AI is driving up prices or rather, it’s reducing availability, which then translates into higher prices.

                                      Another thing is that board manufacturers, distributors and retailers have figured out that they can jack up GPU prices above MSRP and enough suckers will still buy them. They’ll sell less volume but they’ll make more profit per unit.

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                                      • P phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee

                                        I bought my most expensive dream machine last year (when the RTX-4090 was still the best) and I am proud of it. I hope it’ll be my right for at least 10 years.

                                        But it was expensive.

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                                        brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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                                        It seemed like horrible value at the time, but in hindsight a 4090 was not the worst investment, hah.

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                                        • C cm0002@lemmy.world

                                          Well I am shocked, SHOCKED I say! Well, not that shocked.

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                                          hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                                          Food, not ROBLOX.

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