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I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game.

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  • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

    I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

    As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

    I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

    #ttrpg

    Captain ButtonC This user is from outside of this forum
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    @dawngreeter

    I was in a group that started playing Pathfinder on one of the major VTT sites when covid hit, and I don't recall paying for a subscription or any books on the site.

    We did use character sheets with rolling functions and such.

    (I stopped playing a year or two ago for the usual external reasons.)

    (It is possible the GM was paying for stuff but I'd be surprised.)

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    • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

      I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

      As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

      I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

      #ttrpg

      SpinnerL This user is from outside of this forum
      SpinnerL This user is from outside of this forum
      Spinner
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      #3

      @dawngreeter
      Many people just run it paper and pencil on Zoom or Discord, TotM. Some have a cam on their dice tray.

      I know for me, Foundry has modules that help organize my stuff. I have yet to buy anything beyond the initial purchase of the program. All updates are free. A bit of tech savvy helps, but there is a big community for support. The systems and sheets for many games are available for free. Content can be uploaded as scenes and even compendium packs. It helps if you have PDFs.

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      • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

        I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

        As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

        I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

        #ttrpg

        KevinK This user is from outside of this forum
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        Kevin
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        @dawngreeter I think you might have missed some big ones in your search.

        Roll20 has a free tier.
        Foundry is buy-once, with optional paid add-ons.

        Buying the books is completely optional and a nice-to-have for both.

        I'm sure there are other options.

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        • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

          I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

          As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

          I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

          #ttrpg

          FoolishOwlF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @dawngreeter Not a specialized tool, but a lot of people use note-taking apps. Obsidian seems particularly popular.

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          • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

            I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

            As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

            I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

            #ttrpg

            bss, super geniusB This user is from outside of this forum
            bss, super geniusB This user is from outside of this forum
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            Turing Incomplete in my humble experience, that tool is simply a wiki. Foundry, as mentioned by others, has some fancy organizing and dice rolling utility even if you don’t use the VTT, but honestly, nothing beats general purpose tech and a dice bot if you need it.

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            • KevinK Kevin

              @dawngreeter I think you might have missed some big ones in your search.

              Roll20 has a free tier.
              Foundry is buy-once, with optional paid add-ons.

              Buying the books is completely optional and a nice-to-have for both.

              I'm sure there are other options.

              Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP This user is from outside of this forum
              Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP This user is from outside of this forum
              Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary
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              @kevin @dawngreeter
              Yeah, Roll20 may *push* the buying of books in a proprietary format on their site, but you can also just... use community character sheets and do manual data entry into them.

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              • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

                I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

                As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

                I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

                #ttrpg

                binchickenT This user is from outside of this forum
                binchickenT This user is from outside of this forum
                binchicken
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                @dawngreeter
                in a pinch we've gotten by with video-chat and shared docs. the map was a little fraught, but it worked out in the end, with the keeper scribbling annotations on an image file.
                and as for rolls, you will have to pry my physical dice from my scratchy little claws.

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                • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

                  I have very little experience with playing RPGs online and I had just assumed there exists some sort of an online tool for managing your game. Character sheets, NPCs, notes, that sort of stuff.

                  As best I can tell, there is no such thing. But there are a million virtual tabletop services that force you to buy the books you already have, in a proprietary format you can't use outside of their website.

                  I am very frustrated. How is this normal? Who is paying for all of this, and why?

                  #ttrpg

                  Tall DaveT This user is from outside of this forum
                  Tall DaveT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @dawngreeter

                  When I used Foundry to play Cyberpunk Red, the community had put the entire game and all the add-ons into the module. Amazing community.

                  Roll20 uses the SRD for dnd, but the only thing I've bought through them are modules cause it's nice when the maps and tokens are setup already.

                  I reccomend Foundry for what you're looking for, but ymmv on the system

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                  • SpinnerL Spinner

                    @dawngreeter
                    Many people just run it paper and pencil on Zoom or Discord, TotM. Some have a cam on their dice tray.

                    I know for me, Foundry has modules that help organize my stuff. I have yet to buy anything beyond the initial purchase of the program. All updates are free. A bit of tech savvy helps, but there is a big community for support. The systems and sheets for many games are available for free. Content can be uploaded as scenes and even compendium packs. It helps if you have PDFs.

                    Turing IncompleteD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Turing Incomplete
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                    @Lane This is very helpful, thank you. I guess I did not really get what Foundry was, and it seems it might serve my use case.

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                    • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

                      @kevin @dawngreeter
                      Yeah, Roll20 may *push* the buying of books in a proprietary format on their site, but you can also just... use community character sheets and do manual data entry into them.

                      Turing IncompleteD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Turing Incomplete
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                      @pteryx @kevin Yeah, I may have gotten scared off by all the stuff they are selling to notice they have a use beyond re-buying books to unlock character options.

                      I appreciate the input!

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                      • FoolishOwlF FoolishOwl

                        @dawngreeter Not a specialized tool, but a lot of people use note-taking apps. Obsidian seems particularly popular.

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                        @foolishowl Obsidian nearly made me go crazy. I could recall an old online tool for campaign tracking called Obsidian, but kept getting hits on this note taking app that RPG folks liked. Felt like Twilight Zone for a moment there.

                        Then I realized the tool I was thinking of is Obsidian Portal (and did not look very good).

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                        • bss, super geniusB bss, super genius

                          Turing Incomplete in my humble experience, that tool is simply a wiki. Foundry, as mentioned by others, has some fancy organizing and dice rolling utility even if you don’t use the VTT, but honestly, nothing beats general purpose tech and a dice bot if you need it.

                          Turing IncompleteD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Turing Incomplete
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                          @bss Yeah, that is definitely an option I am considering. I was mostly just trying to minimize time investment and hopefully get to something with a few clicks.

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                          • binchickenT binchicken

                            @dawngreeter
                            in a pinch we've gotten by with video-chat and shared docs. the map was a little fraught, but it worked out in the end, with the keeper scribbling annotations on an image file.
                            and as for rolls, you will have to pry my physical dice from my scratchy little claws.

                            Turing IncompleteD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Turing Incomplete
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                            @thegarbagebird I struggle with the idea of not using physical dice, too... I guess we'll see how it goes. Clicking a button and seeing numbers pop up just doesn't have that RPG feel.

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                            • Tall DaveT Tall Dave

                              @dawngreeter

                              When I used Foundry to play Cyberpunk Red, the community had put the entire game and all the add-ons into the module. Amazing community.

                              Roll20 uses the SRD for dnd, but the only thing I've bought through them are modules cause it's nice when the maps and tokens are setup already.

                              I reccomend Foundry for what you're looking for, but ymmv on the system

                              Turing IncompleteD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Turing Incomplete
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                              @ta11dave Yeah, it appears Foundry is the thing I need. It appears significantly more useful than what my initial assessment was.

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                              • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

                                @ta11dave Yeah, it appears Foundry is the thing I need. It appears significantly more useful than what my initial assessment was.

                                Tall DaveT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Tall Dave
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                                @dawngreeter

                                Just know that system support is still community based. I got dnd4e working on foundry but I had to get the links from another discord server because they didn't want to get it shut down.

                                Apparently the cyberpunk team doesn't care as much. Pathfinder2e had everything imported as well.

                                Dnd5e only has the SRD because they bank on people using dndbeyond and importing the data.

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                                • Tall DaveT Tall Dave

                                  @dawngreeter

                                  Just know that system support is still community based. I got dnd4e working on foundry but I had to get the links from another discord server because they didn't want to get it shut down.

                                  Apparently the cyberpunk team doesn't care as much. Pathfinder2e had everything imported as well.

                                  Dnd5e only has the SRD because they bank on people using dndbeyond and importing the data.

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                                  Turing Incomplete
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                                  @ta11dave I am looking for World of Darkness stuff right now, and they have their Dark Pact stuff under open license. I assume the community support for that is decent. Hopefully.

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                                  • Turing IncompleteD Turing Incomplete

                                    @thegarbagebird I struggle with the idea of not using physical dice, too... I guess we'll see how it goes. Clicking a button and seeing numbers pop up just doesn't have that RPG feel.

                                    binchickenT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @dawngreeter and you can't put a randomiser in dice jail

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                                    • binchickenT binchicken

                                      @dawngreeter and you can't put a randomiser in dice jail

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                                      @thegarbagebird YES!

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