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Apparently Canadians are notorius cheaters in the sport of Curling

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  • G greddan@feddit.org

    Yes, but the Canadians threw a hissyfit shouting “Fuck off!” repeatedly at the Swedes during the match. They later went to Swedish newspapers accusing the Swedes of staging a conspiracy against them.

    Those mooseknuckleheads should have been disqualified from the match for their shitty behaviour.

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    tomiant
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    During the whole thing I was just picturing these curling nerds saying that shit to my face and how that’d go down lol.

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    • Z zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

      cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7671573

      Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

      So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

      And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

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      skozzii@lemmy.ca
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      And then there is this angle that shows he holds his finger beside the rock after release.

      The “gotcha” photo has his finger buried internally in the rock, seeing this other angle shows his finger beside the rock, but from a different angle would appear to be touching it.

      Not as clear cut as they want you to believe.

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      • blitzen@lemmy.caB blitzen@lemmy.ca

        “Sports”… haha, good one.

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        tomiant
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        “On second thought it is a silly sport, let’s not go there.”

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        • B bassman27@lemmy.world

          Send them on an all expenses paid trip to America as punishment!

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          lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca
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          Of fuck that’s a war crime.

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          • Z zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/7671573

            Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

            So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

            And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

            tweto

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            sepia@mander.xyz
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            That’s cheap anti-Western propaganda provided by hexbear.

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            • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

              And then there is this angle that shows he holds his finger beside the rock after release.

              The “gotcha” photo has his finger buried internally in the rock, seeing this other angle shows his finger beside the rock, but from a different angle would appear to be touching it.

              Not as clear cut as they want you to believe.

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              ryper@lemmy.ca
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              The pictures are from different throws. Here the person is wearing long sleeves, and the person in the “gotcha” picture is wearing short sleeves.

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              • tomiantT tomiant

                For anyone struggling with why this is a big deal* it’s like if you were playing billiards and nudged the ball after you made the shot because you didn’t like the angle of the shot, it kind of ruins the whole point

                * lol, I mean, for curling at least

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                …if said billiard ball weighed 40 lbs.

                A little finger poke ain’t gonna do shit.

                But, the rules are the rules.

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                • S skozzii@lemmy.ca

                  And then there is this angle that shows he holds his finger beside the rock after release.

                  The “gotcha” photo has his finger buried internally in the rock, seeing this other angle shows his finger beside the rock, but from a different angle would appear to be touching it.

                  Not as clear cut as they want you to believe.

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                  ussmojave@startrek.website
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                  Different shirt, different handle color

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                  • G greddan@feddit.org

                    Yes, but the Canadians threw a hissyfit shouting “Fuck off!” repeatedly at the Swedes during the match. They later went to Swedish newspapers accusing the Swedes of staging a conspiracy against them.

                    Those mooseknuckleheads should have been disqualified from the match for their shitty behaviour.

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                    NotSteve_
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                    We’re not sending our best [to the Olympics] 😞

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                    • R ryper@lemmy.ca

                      The pictures are from different throws. Here the person is wearing long sleeves, and the person in the “gotcha” picture is wearing short sleeves.

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                      cannonfodder@lemmy.world
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                      The point still stands. The ‘gotcha’ picture doesn’t show he’s touching the rock, his finger could be behind. And it’s all fuzzy anyway. And more importantly, he got the official win regardless. Olympic athletes are always pushing the boundaries of the rules to get the edge - it’s part of the tradition.

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                        …if said billiard ball weighed 40 lbs.

                        A little finger poke ain’t gonna do shit.

                        But, the rules are the rules.

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                        A tiny finger poke makes a ton of difference apparently, which is precisely why it’s forbidden. You’ve got a 45 meter long track, small adjustments matter a lot. Though honestly I cannot believe I am letting myself getting worked up over fucking curling.

                        I guess it’s just the reaction to people cheating at the highest competitive levels and then have the gall to be fucking abrasive assholes about it.

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                        • tomiantT tomiant

                          During the whole thing I was just picturing these curling nerds saying that shit to my face and how that’d go down lol.

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                          schnokobaer@feddit.org
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                          Hear hear we got a badass over here.

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                          • S schnokobaer@feddit.org

                            Hear hear we got a badass over here.

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                            tomiant
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                            Yes I am a violent drug addicted criminal, I don’t know maybe you’re a nice kid in school and wear shirts and stuff but around my hood we don’t.

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                            • tomiantT tomiant

                              A tiny finger poke makes a ton of difference apparently, which is precisely why it’s forbidden. You’ve got a 45 meter long track, small adjustments matter a lot. Though honestly I cannot believe I am letting myself getting worked up over fucking curling.

                              I guess it’s just the reaction to people cheating at the highest competitive levels and then have the gall to be fucking abrasive assholes about it.

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                              Having curled myself, I can assure you it does not…and if it did make a difference, it would almost certainly be negative, since you’re giving up any semblance of control that you had on the actual throw. There’s not going to be some “precision poke” that magically steers it where it needs to go. But don’t take my word for it.

                              Does it make any difference?

                              “No. The double-touching that I’ve seen has been incidental contact, and that’s fingers brushing or hand brushing on a 40-pound piece of granite,” said Eugene Hritzuk, a Canadian curler based in Saskatoon who has been involved in competitive curling and coaching for more than 60 years.

                              “What can fingers brushing against a 40-pound piece of granite do in any event? You need the palm on your hand against that stone to do anything.”

                              Delivering a stone entails acute skills to slide on line and on pace, he said.

                              Once sliding on target and at the right speed, releasing the stone and then touching it with any force would cause it to veer off its intended line and speed, Hritzuk said. “That would not be advantageous to good execution.”

                              Canadian curling commentator John Cullen, who hosted the CBC podcast Broomgate: A Curling Scandal, said most top curlers will say that double-touching has no effect on the stone.

                              As well, most top curlers will double-touch at times and don’t think it’s a foul, he said.

                              “The idea that a top curler would let a rock go and then want to try to adjust it with their finger —it doesn’t seem like there’s any way you could get an advantage from that. It feels like it would be worse.”

                              But as I said, the rules are the rules, and I don’t think it’s wrong to enforce them.

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                                Having curled myself, I can assure you it does not…and if it did make a difference, it would almost certainly be negative, since you’re giving up any semblance of control that you had on the actual throw. There’s not going to be some “precision poke” that magically steers it where it needs to go. But don’t take my word for it.

                                Does it make any difference?

                                “No. The double-touching that I’ve seen has been incidental contact, and that’s fingers brushing or hand brushing on a 40-pound piece of granite,” said Eugene Hritzuk, a Canadian curler based in Saskatoon who has been involved in competitive curling and coaching for more than 60 years.

                                “What can fingers brushing against a 40-pound piece of granite do in any event? You need the palm on your hand against that stone to do anything.”

                                Delivering a stone entails acute skills to slide on line and on pace, he said.

                                Once sliding on target and at the right speed, releasing the stone and then touching it with any force would cause it to veer off its intended line and speed, Hritzuk said. “That would not be advantageous to good execution.”

                                Canadian curling commentator John Cullen, who hosted the CBC podcast Broomgate: A Curling Scandal, said most top curlers will say that double-touching has no effect on the stone.

                                As well, most top curlers will double-touch at times and don’t think it’s a foul, he said.

                                “The idea that a top curler would let a rock go and then want to try to adjust it with their finger —it doesn’t seem like there’s any way you could get an advantage from that. It feels like it would be worse.”

                                But as I said, the rules are the rules, and I don’t think it’s wrong to enforce them.

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                                tomiant
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                                It’s strange then how this is a common strategy among cheaters in curling, and that it is exactly what the Canadian team is known for, and it is illegal to do for precisely that reason.

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                                  We’re not sending our best [to the Olympics] 😞

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                                  shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Yep not impressed with this display of poor sportsmanship

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                                  • T toiletobserver

                                    That does seem like solid proof

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                                    bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                    Its a snapshot, he could have released this handle and retracted his hand with his finger off to side of the tangent of the rock. Wed need frames before and after for better review

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                                    • tomiantT tomiant

                                      It’s strange then how this is a common strategy among cheaters in curling, and that it is exactly what the Canadian team is known for, and it is illegal to do for precisely that reason.

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                                      this is a common strategy among cheaters in curling

                                      Very confidently stated, but I really don’t think it is.

                                      it is illegal to do for precisely that reason.

                                      It’s illegal because it’s way simpler to implement a “no touching” rule than to try to define game-changing and non game-changing touches in a way that would be enforceable.

                                      And again, I have absolutely no problem with the rule being enforced, even though I don’t think for a hot second that it impacted the game.

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                                      • tomiantT tomiant

                                        Yes I am a violent drug addicted criminal, I don’t know maybe you’re a nice kid in school and wear shirts and stuff but around my hood we don’t.

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                                        gregorgizeh@lemmy.zip
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                                        You realize we are not in your hood

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                                        • B bcsven@lemmy.ca

                                          Its a snapshot, he could have released this handle and retracted his hand with his finger off to side of the tangent of the rock. Wed need frames before and after for better review

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                                          bcsven@lemmy.ca
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                                          Well in the slowed video it totally looks intentional https://youtu.be/W1yh6GN5ysks

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