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Cleaning plastic containers in a dishwasher is a source of microplastic pollution, study finds

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  • wahots@pawb.socialW wahots@pawb.social

    Probably mechanical abrasion too. Like car tires. Or your carpets/rug. Or your toothbrush. Or your nylon/sport/athlesure wear. Or soft, non-natural blankets, haha. I bet your furniture, too…

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    desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    wool carpets for the win.

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    • P protist@mander.xyz

      Basically any situation where plastic is warmed is a source of microplastic contamination

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      ledericas@lemm.ee
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      water with cleaning chemicals probably leaches some out too.

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        photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The overall plastic mass equated to about 6 milligrams per person per year, or about a quarter of the weight of a grain of rice

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        • M mouselemming@sh.itjust.works

          Betcha scrubbing them in the sink does too. It’s just harder to set up a controlled study.

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          foobarrington@lemmy.world
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          Dishwashers usually wash hotter than you do in the sink & reuse the water, so I’d imagine they also produce more microplastic in the process.

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            11111one11111@lemmy.world
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            Contaminating what? My septic tank that gets emptied every 10 years?

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              Contaminating what? My septic tank that gets emptied every 10 years?

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              x00z@lemmy.world
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              It goes with the water that leaves your septic tank.

              A septic tank is only meant to separate the water from oils and sludge.

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              • 1 11111one11111@lemmy.world

                Contaminating what? My septic tank that gets emptied every 10 years?

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                swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                Where do you think the truck that empties your tank goes?

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                • F foobarrington@lemmy.world

                  Dishwashers usually wash hotter than you do in the sink & reuse the water, so I’d imagine they also produce more microplastic in the process.

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                  mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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                  Hotter yes, but no plastic-on-plastic scrubbing. And not reusing the water wouldn’t change the amount of plastic, it would just be diluted in a larger amount of water. My guess would be, larger particles. But I can see why that would have to be its own, more complicated study. Because so many more variables.

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                  • M mouselemming@sh.itjust.works

                    Hotter yes, but no plastic-on-plastic scrubbing. And not reusing the water wouldn’t change the amount of plastic, it would just be diluted in a larger amount of water. My guess would be, larger particles. But I can see why that would have to be its own, more complicated study. Because so many more variables.

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                    foobarrington@lemmy.world
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                    Do you know that water with microplastics doesn’t cause even more microplastics? Seems reasonable to me - the existing microplastic should be ground even finer, and also cause more microplastic to be ground off.

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                    • S swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                      Where do you think the truck that empties your tank goes?

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                      11111one11111@lemmy.world
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                      No clue. Guess thats what im asking.

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                      • x00z@lemmy.worldX x00z@lemmy.world

                        It goes with the water that leaves your septic tank.

                        A septic tank is only meant to separate the water from oils and sludge.

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                        11111one11111@lemmy.world
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                        Really? So all my piss goes right thru and into my yard? If it filters out and stores solids wouldn’t it also catch the microplastics too?

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                          No clue. Guess thats what im asking.

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                          swampdownloader@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                          They haul it and dispose of it in the sewer.

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                          • F foobarrington@lemmy.world

                            Do you know that water with microplastics doesn’t cause even more microplastics? Seems reasonable to me - the existing microplastic should be ground even finer, and also cause more microplastic to be ground off.

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                            mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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                            Interesting thought, we’ll have to include it in our study. I posit that the microparticles from hand washing will be larger anyway, because method, and will include plastic from the scrubber as well as the containers.

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                            • M mouselemming@sh.itjust.works

                              Interesting thought, we’ll have to include it in our study. I posit that the microparticles from hand washing will be larger anyway, because method, and will include plastic from the scrubber as well as the containers.

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                              foobarrington@lemmy.world
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                              There’s a good chance! Really depends on the impact of temperature, though since we’re still waaaaay below the melting point of plastic, intuitively I’d agree with you.

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                              • photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.comP photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                The overall plastic mass equated to about 6 milligrams per person per year, or about a quarter of the weight of a grain of rice

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                                bigfishbest@lemmy.world
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                                Multiply by nr of persons and years…

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                                • F foobarrington@lemmy.world

                                  There’s a good chance! Really depends on the impact of temperature, though since we’re still waaaaay below the melting point of plastic, intuitively I’d agree with you.

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                                  mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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                                  So where do we get our funding? I’m thinking about a billion, if we call it The Big Beautiful Golden Study, sponsored by plastic and dishwasher manufacturers.

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                                    So where do we get our funding? I’m thinking about a billion, if we call it The Big Beautiful Golden Study, sponsored by plastic and dishwasher manufacturers.

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                                    foobarrington@lemmy.world
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                                    No no no, you have to think about it differently. Neither of those industries will want to sponsor something like this. Instead we have to go with their natural enemies - and was is the opposite of plastic (i.e. what is non-plastic)? Obviously concrete!

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                                      timeghost@lemmy.world
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                                      Plastic is poison.

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                                      • B bigfishbest@lemmy.world

                                        Multiply by nr of persons and years…

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                                        ilega_dh@feddit.nl
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                                        Yes, that is what “per person per year” means

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                                          etterra@discuss.online
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                                          Well I don’t want my Vitamin P to be covered in bacteria.

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