They lost me at the last point tbh. I don’t blame anyone for not knowing and you shouldn’t blame me for not learning about something that hasn’t affected me.

I believe what they are referring to is that it’s not any individuals responsibility to ensure that any other individuals knowledge of their marginalization is complete. That’s not saying that individuals can’t do it, nor that they shouldn’t call attention to specific issues as effect them at that time. It’s saying that they are not responsible to do the work of teaching someone that which they should learn themselves once the issue has been raised. To do otherwise often feels like the person has to justify their existence and struggles to anyone who asks. That’s an unreasonable load for the marginalized person to carry.

So not blame, just where the burthen of learning falls once an issue comes up.

I wholly don’t understand it. If one brings up an issue it kind of is up to the person to explain why it is an issue, no? I’d just tell ya I’m part of a marginalised group? Like, I’m the US version of “white”, rich enough to afford a vacation a year and a house, cishet. My marginalization is not brought up on those bullet points so you’d have to go digging down my comments to find it. Like, how often do these issues get brought up?

Like, the person exists allright if they’re in front of me but if they have an active problem they do have to make a case among the group, as otherwise it seems very easily weaponized.

As for the reason I’m a marginalised group, I got falsely accused of raping someone and that wholly destroyed my social life. I hope you have an understanding of why I’m very weary of these kind of systems.

That’s some grade A virtue signaling. I bet they felt VERY smug about what they accomplished with this. I fucking hate people like this. What DARK shit are you hiding that you’re constantly trying to convince people of your virtue?

Basic empathy and a desire to make the world a better place?

A dark and evil desire for a more compassionate world free from bigots and fascists. There I said it.

DNI in Spanish stands for Documento Nacional de Identidad so everytime i saw these I always have to take a double step, what are ya asking ID for?

It’s your responsibility to learn, not their responsibility to teach.

It’s not their responsibility to teach but it’s also not my responsibility to keep abreast of all social developments. It’s inappropriate to gatekeep due to someone’s naive ignorance.

Picture this. Sitting at a table game and someone drops a term or phrase that I don’t recognise. Am I going to run to the toilet and google that term? Or am I just gonna say 'yo, what’s that mean?"

Lol no. These people rarely have empathy for anyone but themselves.

I think it enforces itself by being off-putting to bigots. How many of them are playing it “incorrectly” to own the libs rather than just playing something they perceive as less hostile?

Guys no one ever says “don’t even ASK!”. It’s just that if you do ask, and the person does not have the energy or the capacity of explaining at that moment for any reason, don’t push and don’t get angry. Being oppressed is tiring, and having to explain yourself all the time is even more tiring. That’s all. If you are genuinely curious, you will find resources to learn and even people willing to teach. Just don’t expect EVERYONE to be that person.

Even though we usually talk about it in a derogatory way, virtue signaling is not inherently bad. A shirt that says “trans rights are human rights” is virtue signaling, but the performance is in itself beneficial to society, even if the wearer is only doing it to feel trendy and special.

What they accomplished with this is hostility to bigots who might otherwise have felt welcome.

none, because the title and cover art alone would put them off.

I would play this despite not respecting fat people

Playing devil’s advocate: Shouldn’t those who are not in a marginalized group be somewhat expected to have a modicum of understanding for those around them, though? No one should be expected to explain how, or why, they are who they are, and being pointedly asked about it generally puts a contentious focus on that aspect. Many, many people have put their energy and effort to explain all sorts of aspects about themselves, which are readily available at a moments notice. Why not rely on those instead of bringing up a potentially vulnerable topic and/or using a single aspect of one’s identity as a talking point?

Hmm, yeah.

This shit that you’re doing, right here? Nobody wants to deal with that.

Well yeah that’s what I meant. Learning is necessary, teaching is voluntary.

Well, everyone is about to start asking for an ID on the web, it seems, so you might be about right soon

What this is talking about would be if I were to now ask you questions about your marginalization and demanded answers. But since that is not relevant to our discussion here and because it’s not your job to ensure that I am informed on any issues relating to your marginalization I wouldn’t ask the questions in the first place. You shouldn’t have to feel like you have to justify your existence to anybody who possess by and is curious.

People sometimes treat visible members of marginalized groups like they are information dispensers. That just because they are viable they are responsible for entertaining their curiousity. In specific instances where it’s relevant and invited a discussion of their marginalization is fine. But it’s is not the job of someone to ensure any person interested is told about whatever they want to ask.