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If you use Mastodon; please pay for your use.

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  • Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
    Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
    Matt Wilcox
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    #1

    If you use Mastodon; please pay for your use. Please.

    This is not the corporate web of Twitter and Google. No company is paying for your use of this service. Your use of the service is not being sold to ad companies.

    You use it? That is costing your admin owner literal actual money.

    Pay for things you like. Or they go away. Or they stay but get taken over by exploitative people that will eventually destroy it.

    Please, find your instance owner and pay them some money.

    Thanks.

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    • Matt WilcoxM Matt Wilcox

      If you use Mastodon; please pay for your use. Please.

      This is not the corporate web of Twitter and Google. No company is paying for your use of this service. Your use of the service is not being sold to ad companies.

      You use it? That is costing your admin owner literal actual money.

      Pay for things you like. Or they go away. Or they stay but get taken over by exploitative people that will eventually destroy it.

      Please, find your instance owner and pay them some money.

      Thanks.

      socS This user is from outside of this forum
      socS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mattwilcox I commend people who operate Mastodon servers as much as anyone else.

      But if an individual-run instance with 14.000 people is basically in the red every single month, then this is not a sustainable way of running a Mastodon instance.

      There is a systemic issue that needs to be resolved ... not begging users to help every month.

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      • socS soc

        @mattwilcox I commend people who operate Mastodon servers as much as anyone else.

        But if an individual-run instance with 14.000 people is basically in the red every single month, then this is not a sustainable way of running a Mastodon instance.

        There is a systemic issue that needs to be resolved ... not begging users to help every month.

        Emma Liv 🇨🇦N This user is from outside of this forum
        Emma Liv 🇨🇦N This user is from outside of this forum
        Emma Liv 🇨🇦
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        @soc @mattwilcox In contrast to the tone of this post and your comment (sincerely no offense intended), in Stux's own words:

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        • Emma Liv 🇨🇦N Emma Liv 🇨🇦

          @soc @mattwilcox In contrast to the tone of this post and your comment (sincerely no offense intended), in Stux's own words:

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          Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
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          @not3ottersinacoat Yeah, Stux is a good person. But the point is that *way too many people* decide that "the host of the party being generous" means *they* can just not contribute and it's OK. When they absolutely could, and should. @soc

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          • Matt WilcoxM Matt Wilcox

            @not3ottersinacoat Yeah, Stux is a good person. But the point is that *way too many people* decide that "the host of the party being generous" means *they* can just not contribute and it's OK. When they absolutely could, and should. @soc

            stux :stux_santa:S This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mattwilcox @not3ottersinacoat @soc Sorry for tapping in..

            There's a little two sides of this, I very much feel ashamed for asking these donations and would love to just pay it all myself and dont bother you all.. But.. with the current size of most of the services i run, it's a little too much at this point for me to pay alone. At this point servers costs about 4-5 times our home rent so.. yeah

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            • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

              @mattwilcox @not3ottersinacoat @soc Sorry for tapping in..

              There's a little two sides of this, I very much feel ashamed for asking these donations and would love to just pay it all myself and dont bother you all.. But.. with the current size of most of the services i run, it's a little too much at this point for me to pay alone. At this point servers costs about 4-5 times our home rent so.. yeah

              Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
              Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @stux Please do not feel ashamed. There is nothing whatsoever to be ashamed about. Rather the opposite. @not3ottersinacoat soc

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              • Matt WilcoxM Matt Wilcox

                @stux Please do not feel ashamed. There is nothing whatsoever to be ashamed about. Rather the opposite. @not3ottersinacoat soc

                stux :stux_santa:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mattwilcox @not3ottersinacoat ❤️ I do always try to put the tone on "if you can donate" and not forcing in any way

                It kinda breaks my hearts when people say something like "sorry i cant do more"! Never apoligize for helping out, every bit helps

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                • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

                  @mattwilcox @not3ottersinacoat ❤️ I do always try to put the tone on "if you can donate" and not forcing in any way

                  It kinda breaks my hearts when people say something like "sorry i cant do more"! Never apoligize for helping out, every bit helps

                  Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Matt WilcoxM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @stux My point of contention is that nice people doing tons of work and literally funding what other people use with cold hard cash... end up feeling bad about asking the gigantic majority who are simply using their work to *consider* paying towards that work.

                  This is the fediverse. There are plenty of people who grok the technical effort needed, and open source economics, and have no issues buying $6 coffees on the morning routine.

                  "Sacrifice" a coffee once a month.

                  @not3ottersinacoat

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