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  • Lime Buzz (fae/she)S Lime Buzz (fae/she)

    Oh wow, it sounds so much simpler and easier. Thanks for expanding on the other person’s point!

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    Wugmeister
    wrote last edited by thisisamanwhoknowshowtogling@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    #25

    I just wanted to make sure you understood that the complexity is loaded all at the front, during session 0. Its actually a good deal more complex, but you get to pick and choose what kinds of complexity you want and deal with it at character creation.

    Also, their supplemental books really helped me grow as a writer and gamemaster. Most of them tackle a genre and explore it thoroughly.

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    • R rumschlumpel@feddit.org

      Good point, actually. Seems like these days, a lot of people wouldn’t change their opinion after seeing what this grandma saw.

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      stovetop@lemmy.world
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      The conspiracy and accusations must always go deeper.

      I’m also surprised it ended with the grandma realizing it was just math, because it could have just as easily ended with her thinking that they’re obviously hiding what the real game is about, and how bad it must be be that they’d go to such great lengths to cover it up.

      I have to assume having a good, strong relationship with her grandchild must also be a contributing factor. If D&D remained something only anonymous ne’er-do-wells do, it’d be easy to continue buying into the satanic panic. But someone you know and trust to be responsible telling you it’s no big deal might make it a bit easier to accept.

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      • thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.socialT thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.social

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        I am assuming this was the 2.5ed? THAC0 calculations was treated as an arcane knowledge that only DMs had access to

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        • WugmeisterT Wugmeister

          I just wanted to make sure you understood that the complexity is loaded all at the front, during session 0. Its actually a good deal more complex, but you get to pick and choose what kinds of complexity you want and deal with it at character creation.

          Also, their supplemental books really helped me grow as a writer and gamemaster. Most of them tackle a genre and explore it thoroughly.

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          Lime Buzz (fae/she)
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          #28

          Oh, thanks! We really appreciate that!

          That’s great! 🙂

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          • DiplomjodlerD Diplomjodler

            They’re using Arabic numerals! It’s obviously all a devilish ploy to subvert our pure Christian souls!

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            #29

            Not at my games, we only use true American ternary - 🦅, 🍔, and 🛢️

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            • WugmeisterT Wugmeister

              I’m going to second the other commenter in my enthusiasm for GURPS, but for the opposite reason.

              Gurps has the problem of being a universal role-playing system, like Fate, which means session zero includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

              Then, once you start playing, you never have to look at the rulebook again. All the rules you will be using were written (by you) on your character sheet. You roll the dice, see if you managed to roll under your target numbers, and then either succeed or fail. The DM barely has to adjudicate anything.

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              #30

              Thanks for this. Its been quite a while since I’ve played, so I was going off of fuzzy memory. I do still have all the books, but haven’t opened them in a long time.

              That’s exactly it. You choose what you want your character to do and be within the GM’s world type. Then you have one or two sessions really setting everything up for world, characters, story, progression, etc. After that you’re done with the hard part. Heck, even the GM is done with it. They may need to reference material occasionally, but the game almost plays itself.

              It’s much, much more casual and focuses more on story and narrative. Its like if Choose Your Own Adventure was a game, the rolls only being there to add flavor and excitement to your adventures.

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                korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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                People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                  kungfuratte@feddit.org
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                  #32

                  Black Math.

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                    #33

                    So was it better or worse than satanism?

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                    • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                      People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                      vga@sopuli.xyz
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                      #34

                      Thought. In the 80s and perhaps still in early 90s.

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                      • U universalbasicjustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                        Speaking as a Satanist studying computational fluid dynamics…

                        Need a DM?

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                        msage@programming.dev
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                        #35

                        I would love this so much.

                        I’ve never played any non-PC RPG though.

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                        • WugmeisterT Wugmeister

                          I’m going to second the other commenter in my enthusiasm for GURPS, but for the opposite reason.

                          Gurps has the problem of being a universal role-playing system, like Fate, which means session zero includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

                          Then, once you start playing, you never have to look at the rulebook again. All the rules you will be using were written (by you) on your character sheet. You roll the dice, see if you managed to roll under your target numbers, and then either succeed or fail. The DM barely has to adjudicate anything.

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                          knock_knock_lemmy_in@lemmy.world
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                          includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

                          Holy shit. This first bit sounds like a bureaucracy simulator.

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                          • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                            People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                            weariedfae@sh.itjust.works
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                            It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

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                            • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                              People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                              ssillyssadass
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                              Pearl-clutching “christians” used to be deathly afraid of anything with even slightly negative undertones. “Dungeons? Dragons? That’s the devil! Away Satan! Our children are making pacts with the devil!” Satan was historically represented by a dragon in Christian mythology.

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                              • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                                People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                                I ran my school’s D&D club in Highschool. At one point my Grandma came along to watch me and my Siblings while my parents were out of the house for a month and when i told her that i’d need picked up later on certain days for D&D club, she went off on this long rant about how ‘D&D is satanic’ and then something about how ‘Obama eats babies’. To this day i’m literally shocked she believes that junk.

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                                • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                                  It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Chick.com: Dark Dungeons

                                  Debbie thought playing Dungeons and Dragons was fun...until it destroyed her friend.

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                                  (www.chick.com)

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                                  burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
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                                  https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3625970/ Dark Dungeons, the movie

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                                  • V vga@sopuli.xyz

                                    So was it better or worse than satanism?

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                                    finishingdutch@lemmy.world
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                                    #41

                                    Having experienced math, I’d choose satanism for sure.

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                                      I like your grandma. She cared for you; she took a risk by exposing herself to potential danger, fact-checked, and knew math when she saw it.

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                                      • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                                        It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Chick.com: Dark Dungeons

                                        Debbie thought playing Dungeons and Dragons was fun...until it destroyed her friend.

                                        favicon

                                        (www.chick.com)

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                                        #43

                                        This is parody, right ?

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                                        • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                                          It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Chick.com: Dark Dungeons

                                          Debbie thought playing Dungeons and Dragons was fun...until it destroyed her friend.

                                          favicon

                                          (www.chick.com)

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                                          Schadrach
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                                          #44

                                          Don’t forget Tom Hanks first leading role in the movie Mazes and Monsters, originally titled Dungeons & Dragons, but forced to change it when TSR sued them.

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