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  • thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.socialT thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.social

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    kungfuratte@feddit.org
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    #32

    Black Math.

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      vga@sopuli.xyz
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      So was it better or worse than satanism?

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      • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

        People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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        vga@sopuli.xyz
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        Thought. In the 80s and perhaps still in early 90s.

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        • U universalbasicjustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          Speaking as a Satanist studying computational fluid dynamics…

          Need a DM?

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          msage@programming.dev
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          I would love this so much.

          I’ve never played any non-PC RPG though.

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          • WugmeisterT Wugmeister

            I’m going to second the other commenter in my enthusiasm for GURPS, but for the opposite reason.

            Gurps has the problem of being a universal role-playing system, like Fate, which means session zero includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

            Then, once you start playing, you never have to look at the rulebook again. All the rules you will be using were written (by you) on your character sheet. You roll the dice, see if you managed to roll under your target numbers, and then either succeed or fail. The DM barely has to adjudicate anything.

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            knock_knock_lemmy_in@lemmy.world
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            includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

            Holy shit. This first bit sounds like a bureaucracy simulator.

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            • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

              People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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              weariedfae@sh.itjust.works
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              It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

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              Chick.com: Dark Dungeons

              Debbie thought playing Dungeons and Dragons was fun...until it destroyed her friend.

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              • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                ssillyssadass
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                Pearl-clutching “christians” used to be deathly afraid of anything with even slightly negative undertones. “Dungeons? Dragons? That’s the devil! Away Satan! Our children are making pacts with the devil!” Satan was historically represented by a dragon in Christian mythology.

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                • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

                  People actually think D&D is Satanism? I thought it was a meme

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                  MyNameIsAtticus
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                  I ran my school’s D&D club in Highschool. At one point my Grandma came along to watch me and my Siblings while my parents were out of the house for a month and when i told her that i’d need picked up later on certain days for D&D club, she went off on this long rant about how ‘D&D is satanic’ and then something about how ‘Obama eats babies’. To this day i’m literally shocked she believes that junk.

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                  • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                    It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

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                    Chick.com: Dark Dungeons

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                    burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world
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                    https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3625970/ Dark Dungeons, the movie

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                    • V vga@sopuli.xyz

                      So was it better or worse than satanism?

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                      finishingdutch@lemmy.world
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                      Having experienced math, I’d choose satanism for sure.

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                      • thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.socialT thefuzzyfurrycomrade@pawb.social

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                        bremen15@feddit.org
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                        I like your grandma. She cared for you; she took a risk by exposing herself to potential danger, fact-checked, and knew math when she saw it.

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                        • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                          It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

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                          This is parody, right ?

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                          • W weariedfae@sh.itjust.works

                            It was totally a thing during the satanic panic. There’s an infamous Chick Tract about d&d that I was genuinely given by cult missionaries when I was a kid.

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                            Schadrach
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                            Don’t forget Tom Hanks first leading role in the movie Mazes and Monsters, originally titled Dungeons & Dragons, but forced to change it when TSR sued them.

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                            • A ssillyssadass

                              Pearl-clutching “christians” used to be deathly afraid of anything with even slightly negative undertones. “Dungeons? Dragons? That’s the devil! Away Satan! Our children are making pacts with the devil!” Satan was historically represented by a dragon in Christian mythology.

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                              Schadrach
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                              Don’t forget the woman whose son committed suicide so she created an anti-D&D group called Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons. Her group described D&D as “a fantasy role-playing game which uses demonology, witchcraft, voodoo, murder, rape, blasphemy, suicide, assassination, insanity, sex perversion, homosexuality, prostitution, satanic type rituals, gambling, barbarism, cannibalism, sadism, desecration, demon summoning, necromantics, divination and other teachings.”

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                              • S Schadrach

                                Don’t forget the woman whose son committed suicide so she created an anti-D&D group called Bothered About Dungeons and Dragons. Her group described D&D as “a fantasy role-playing game which uses demonology, witchcraft, voodoo, murder, rape, blasphemy, suicide, assassination, insanity, sex perversion, homosexuality, prostitution, satanic type rituals, gambling, barbarism, cannibalism, sadism, desecration, demon summoning, necromantics, divination and other teachings.”

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                                ssillyssadass
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                                That she included homosexuality in that list really says a lot about her

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                                • OwlB Owl

                                  This is parody, right ?

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                                  tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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                                  The Sithrak tracts are much more informative anyway

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                                  Even now Sithrak oils the spit

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                                  • K knock_knock_lemmy_in@lemmy.world

                                    includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

                                    Holy shit. This first bit sounds like a bureaucracy simulator.

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                                    Natanael
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                                    Probably the only game to be made better by chatgpt

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                                    • massive_bereavementM massive_bereavement

                                      A friend calls it “narrative gambling”, because eventually we’re all throwing dice and hoping it doesn’t “ruin” us.

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                                      squaresinger@lemmy.world
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                                      I mean, it’s not entirely wrong, but saying anything involving dice and risk is gambling, thus meaning it contains the same addictive and problematic features that gambling does, is incredibly simplistic and superficial.

                                      It’s like saying carrots and coke is the same thing because both contain sugar.

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                                      • WugmeisterT Wugmeister

                                        I’m going to second the other commenter in my enthusiasm for GURPS, but for the opposite reason.

                                        Gurps has the problem of being a universal role-playing system, like Fate, which means session zero includes a long sit-down with your DM about what precisely we will be doing in this game and what mechanics we will be using to create the desired experience. You then fill out the appropriate forms in triplicate to create your character. Usually, your DM makes a template for you to use like a shopping list, but the rulebook assumes you are digging through the first 300-page volume selecting your abilities and skills over the course of a day.

                                        Then, once you start playing, you never have to look at the rulebook again. All the rules you will be using were written (by you) on your character sheet. You roll the dice, see if you managed to roll under your target numbers, and then either succeed or fail. The DM barely has to adjudicate anything.

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                                        squaresinger@lemmy.world
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                                        I understand what you are saying and I can see why that could be interesting to some.

                                        I myself prefer to go the exact opposite route. I like Mini6 a lot. It’s 2 pages of actual rules and a few more with example scenarios, spells, items, skills and enemies. The whole thing is like 30 pages IIRC.

                                        And even better: Dread. You can explain the rules in 2 minutes.

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                                        • R rumschlumpel@feddit.org

                                          Good point, actually. Seems like these days, a lot of people wouldn’t change their opinion after seeing what this grandma saw.

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                                          cynar@lemmy.world
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                                          There are 2 sorts of ignorance. Incidental and willful. Incidental can be fixed easily, with more information. Willful only look to support their pre-decided views, and so are far harder to change.

                                          Before the internet became a big thing, both were common on topics. We were forced to rely on what we were told. This lead to a lot of incidental ignorance. The internet made it easy to fix this.

                                          The end result is the ratio has changed. It used to be, say 80% incidental, and 20% willful. Now 90% of the incidental is mostly fixed. So it’s 29% incidental, 71% willful. And so looks a lot worse to casual observation.

                                          The Grandma seems the incidental type. Going to a game gave her the information to update her views.

                                          Also to note, the numbers here were pulled from my arse for example purposes only. Actual ratios may vary.

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