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  • megane-kunM megane-kun

    Me and a few of my partymates had the message cantrip, and I pointed out that due to the cantrip’s effects, we can virtually “have a telepathic group chat” via those of us who have the cantrip.

    At first, I tried to stick to the illusion that I act as an intermediary to those in my range but doesn’t have the cantrip, and that I identify myself before I speak up (“Megane here… blah blah blah”).

    The more it went on, the more the facade broke and eventually we were just discussing strategy under the assumption that it’s “message-mediated”.

    The DM allowed it, and later gave all party members an artifact that has the following effects:

    • anyone with the artifact can telepathically send a message to everyone else who has the artifact (within range)
    • those who have the artifact can hear any and all such messages sent through the artifact (within range)

    Later on, even the range stipulation was handwaved off (within limits—basically those who are in the same scene are assumed to be in range of each other).

    Near the end of the campaign, the DM reminded us through an NPC that we’re all “staring off into the distance” whenever we use this telepathic “group chat”. We basically forgot to talk to each other normally (in character).

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    Sleepless One
    wrote last edited by sleeplessone@lemmy.ml
    #7

    Ended up with a similarly broken “telepathic groupchat” with a soulknife rogue’s psychic whispers ability.

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    • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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      rakonat@lemmy.world
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      For your group I would have a DM screen and a DM stick. The screen to obscure roles, notes and and have all that nifty quick reference stuff on the inside.

      The stick so I can wack anyone tryin his bullshit. Week one it would started as a padded wiffle bat. And each week it would be upgraded to a more solid and rougher hitting object

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      • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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        I have a friend who plays a sorcerer who abuses the hell out of Mold Earth, Shape Water, and Create Bonfire. RAW most of the things he gets away with shouldn’t work, but the DM rarely calls him on it. His most egregious attempt was when he tried to basically part a sea Moses style by casting Create Bonfire and expanding the flame with Control Flames, intending to evaporate all the water occupying the space of the flames. This was too much even for our otherwise pretty lenient DM.

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        • megane-kunM megane-kun

          Me and a few of my partymates had the message cantrip, and I pointed out that due to the cantrip’s effects, we can virtually “have a telepathic group chat” via those of us who have the cantrip.

          At first, I tried to stick to the illusion that I act as an intermediary to those in my range but doesn’t have the cantrip, and that I identify myself before I speak up (“Megane here… blah blah blah”).

          The more it went on, the more the facade broke and eventually we were just discussing strategy under the assumption that it’s “message-mediated”.

          The DM allowed it, and later gave all party members an artifact that has the following effects:

          • anyone with the artifact can telepathically send a message to everyone else who has the artifact (within range)
          • those who have the artifact can hear any and all such messages sent through the artifact (within range)

          Later on, even the range stipulation was handwaved off (within limits—basically those who are in the same scene are assumed to be in range of each other).

          Near the end of the campaign, the DM reminded us through an NPC that we’re all “staring off into the distance” whenever we use this telepathic “group chat”. We basically forgot to talk to each other normally (in character).

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          tetris11@feddit.uk
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          smart DM

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          • R rakonat@lemmy.world

            For your group I would have a DM screen and a DM stick. The screen to obscure roles, notes and and have all that nifty quick reference stuff on the inside.

            The stick so I can wack anyone tryin his bullshit. Week one it would started as a padded wiffle bat. And each week it would be upgraded to a more solid and rougher hitting object

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            hejmeddig@feddit.dk
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            This sounds like it would quickly spiral into the other kind of dungeon with stocks and whips

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            • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

              cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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              rakonat@lemmy.world
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              It’s my dungeon and I’m the master.

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              • H hejmeddig@feddit.dk

                This sounds like it would quickly spiral into the other kind of dungeon with stocks and whips

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                tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de
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                #13

                Dungeons and drag on

                Edit: I read ‘stockings and whips’ … I’m going back to sleep

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                • R rakonat@lemmy.world

                  For your group I would have a DM screen and a DM stick. The screen to obscure roles, notes and and have all that nifty quick reference stuff on the inside.

                  The stick so I can wack anyone tryin his bullshit. Week one it would started as a padded wiffle bat. And each week it would be upgraded to a more solid and rougher hitting object

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                  gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world
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                  • H hejmeddig@feddit.dk

                    This sounds like it would quickly spiral into the other kind of dungeon with stocks and whips

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                    rakonat@lemmy.world
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                    It’s my dungeon and I’m the master here.

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                    • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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                      If I wrote a CRPG game, like an ASCII roguelike or something, I would totally include a spell that makes the target shit its pants. You could make that work, it would even be a useful thing in combat. Vampire lord misses a turn because he just shat his pants.

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                      • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                        cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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                        tiredofsametab
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                        That party never would have survived in 2nd ed.

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                        • glorkon@lemmy.worldG glorkon@lemmy.world

                          If I wrote a CRPG game, like an ASCII roguelike or something, I would totally include a spell that makes the target shit its pants. You could make that work, it would even be a useful thing in combat. Vampire lord misses a turn because he just shat his pants.

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                          comfortableraspberry@feddit.org
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                          But, do vampires poop?

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                          • comfortableraspberry@feddit.orgC comfortableraspberry@feddit.org

                            But, do vampires poop?

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                            ook@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            #19

                            They do under your spell.

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                            • ook@discuss.tchncs.deO ook@discuss.tchncs.de

                              They do under your spell.

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                              glorkon@lemmy.world
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                              Yeah, and the shock, surprise and frankly the embarrassment that a mighty vampire lord would experience when shitting himself makes him miss a turn, also he probably becomes more vulnerable. If not physically then definitely emotionally.

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                              • ook@discuss.tchncs.deO ook@discuss.tchncs.de

                                They do under your spell.

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                                sirblastalot@ttrpg.network
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                                Imagine the emotional and physical damage of taking your first shit in thousands of years.

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                                • ook@discuss.tchncs.deO ook@discuss.tchncs.de

                                  They do under your spell.

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                                  comfortableraspberry@feddit.org
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                                  I guess this would add some additional damage? Just imagine the horror of this happening for the first time in hundreds maybe thousands of years. There’s nothing in you, that could actually provided the necessary… “material”. So where does it come from? And then the realization sets in: you’re not alone. The fear, the feeling, the smell, the audience. This could kill someone! (⁠٥・⁠_⁠・⁠)

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                                  • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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                                    #23

                                    Presdigitation (not even gonna try to spell it right), Druidcraft, and Thaumaturgy

                                    • Cantrip
                                    • Does, like, whatever I fuckin’ feel like and can get away with. What do you mean Druidcraft can make buds open? No, if can make whole plants!
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                                    • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                                      cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/34436816

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                                      festnt@sh.itjust.works
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                                      #24

                                      pathfinder (2e) fixes this by adding flavor text and/or being more specific

                                      i totally don’t just have a group of lazy people who don’t even want to use spells

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                                      • JackbyDevJ JackbyDev

                                        Presdigitation (not even gonna try to spell it right), Druidcraft, and Thaumaturgy

                                        • Cantrip
                                        • Does, like, whatever I fuckin’ feel like and can get away with. What do you mean Druidcraft can make buds open? No, if can make whole plants!
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                                        ඞmir
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                                        I’d rather have this than solving every puzzle with an axe

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                                        • glorkon@lemmy.worldG glorkon@lemmy.world

                                          If I wrote a CRPG game, like an ASCII roguelike or something, I would totally include a spell that makes the target shit its pants. You could make that work, it would even be a useful thing in combat. Vampire lord misses a turn because he just shat his pants.

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                                          wrote last edited by zoomboingding@lemmy.world
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                                          I homebrewed a cantrip that you could argue makes a target shit their pants just a little bit. Probably not more than a shart.

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