"I don't want Politics in my Gaming!"
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.
“Politics are genuinely fun and everyone wants to see them all the time, and the people who say they don’t want to see it like it even more, they just wish they were seeing different politics.” -hbomberguy
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“I don’t want to talk about/see politics” is always synonym to “I support the status quo, and I will aggressively reject anything that goes against it”.
Nothing that happens on a public space is free of politics, even when it’s not controversial.
Anything they see in there that goes against their own personally DESIRED to be status quo is an insult. Theyve just got shit views so well rounded culture shocks them and it reminds them all about how their shit stinks and they aren’t really all that smart or morally sound. Cause if they were, they wouldn’t have identified with any that stuff to begin with or realized the perils.
And it makes them know the cringe at how they’re viewed (but they say its just how they’re PORTRAYED to pass the buck on being that way being their own fault and indicative of their lack of stats and general lack of character)
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But you’re making the statement that it’s okay to kill people if you want their stuff. The politics are there even if you don’t choose to examine them.
No, I’m not. Because my mental development moved past three years old and I’m able to differentiate reality from fiction. Do you also believe that Super Mario players advocate for animal cruelty towards turtles?
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How come gay people don’t already have rights in your setting?
They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.
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They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.
That doesn’t make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?
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That doesn’t make any sense. If they already have rights then what are they arguing for?
As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.
I don’t want North-American politics in my gaming.
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No, I’m not. Because my mental development moved past three years old and I’m able to differentiate reality from fiction. Do you also believe that Super Mario players advocate for animal cruelty towards turtles?
I mean the statement is being made within the universe. Super Mario does advocate for violence against koopas. You don’t have to examine it, but that doesn’t make it apolitical.
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.
All I want is more nice unpolitical games like Bioshock or Wolfenstein
And not the woke nonsense of having female or PoC main characters.
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As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.
Sounds like you’re either not picking up on the fact that your world isn’t actually supportive of gay rights (because of subconscious prejudice or something) or you’re bad at communicating that it is, or both.
“Weaponized inclusivity” jesus christ so its clearly the former
“Narcissistic urge for self-promotion” insane statement. Check your prejudice.
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They do. Doesn’t stop dipshits from arguing though. Case in point.
When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you’re probably the dipshit.
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man I just wanna play my lyre and have an adventure and have fun. I don’t wanna argue over politics. I game to get away from all that.
I think it’s ok to want to have some space between stuff.
The point is that there are politics in your game, like it or not. Whether you make them a central focus is another story entirely.
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Exactly. What they’re really mad about is the fact that there’s a black person, a gay person, or woman with normal sized tits in the game.
I hate normal sized tits!
/s Just in case
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As I wrote in my original post, some people just have a narcissistic need for self-promotion. They will preach to the choir and bring irrelevant political topics into the game because they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.
Your language choices give a phobic vibe, just FYI. “[…] they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.” Like you know they’re suffering actual IRL oppression, right? Stuff like that could be giving LGBT players the impression that you’re hostile towards them.
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When everyone around you seems like a dipshit, you’re probably the dipshit.
Oh, quite the opposite. Most people around me are awesome. And I’ve gotten pretty good at sorting out the few who aren’t. In fact, after deleting Reddit, pretty much my entire dipshit intake stems from Lemmy. I sometimes really do wonder what I’m still doing here. Because clearly, this entire community has some serious issues to work through.
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Your language choices give a phobic vibe, just FYI. “[…] they feel like the real world doesn’t appreciate their valiant efforts towards weaponized inclusivity enough.” Like you know they’re suffering actual IRL oppression, right? Stuff like that could be giving LGBT players the impression that you’re hostile towards them.
My language choice is not phobic, it’s aggressive, because I’m once again realizing, why half of this sub is permanently looking for groups.
I can assure you, that there is no inclusivity issue in any of my worlds. But it’s also not anything I pay any mind to at all unless my players are looking for connections or love interests. Other than that I try to avoid heteronormativity for the very few occasions NPCs are actually in a relationship that matters to the game and that’s it.
And as I commented before, if you want a world and story FOCUSED on inclusivity and LQBTQ issues, then I’m sure there are countless DMs who will be happy to provide that. Because I am not. My games focus on adventuring, nature and mystic, long forgotten places and that’s exactly how I and my players like it!
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The point is that there are politics in your game, like it or not. Whether you make them a central focus is another story entirely.
yep they exist. but I don’t need to solely focus on them. and this entire thread seems to be people saying that fact over and over again. (as you just did as well)
is there some kind of meme I missed or something? I’m confused as to why there’s so much hostility in the comments.
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Agreed. And there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s a big difference between playing a gay character and derailing the entire campaign because you choose to lead a gay rights movement while the world is being overrun by the demon king’s hordes.
I don’t care about the former and have done so myself, but I’ll boot you from my table for the later. Not because I’m against gay rights, but because that’s not the kind of story I’m interested in DMing and you’re free to find a DM who’s interested in this storyline, but you won’t take my campaign and players hostage for your narcissistic urge for self-promotion!
you choose to lead a gay rights movement while the world is being overrun by the demon king’s hordes.
This maps kind of easily onto “We can’t fight for gay rights right now. They just blew up the twin towers!” or similar “wait your turn for justice” arguments.
I get the impression that you don’t see that kind of thing, and furthermore don’t care. You run whatever kind of game you want, but I would be surprised if your settings weren’t full of unexamined biases and defaults.
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Seriously. Every form of entertainment has baked-in political assumptions, and that definitely includes #ttrpg . You might choose not to examine them, but this is an active choice on your part, and you don’t get to pretend that your entertainment is “free of politics”.
Feminism ruined video games means i cant play a video game without thinking about it from a feminist point of view lol
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you choose to lead a gay rights movement while the world is being overrun by the demon king’s hordes.
This maps kind of easily onto “We can’t fight for gay rights right now. They just blew up the twin towers!” or similar “wait your turn for justice” arguments.
I get the impression that you don’t see that kind of thing, and furthermore don’t care. You run whatever kind of game you want, but I would be surprised if your settings weren’t full of unexamined biases and defaults.
Lol, nice strawman you built there. There’s no need to “wait your turn for justice”. Just get yourself a group who enjoys that kind of campaign and you’re good to go! This isn’t a “We can’t fight for gay rights right now. They just blew up the twin towers” scenario.
In fact, you’re arguing exactly like the people on the opposite side: “How dare you care about gay rights. We need thoughts and prayers for the 9/11 victims right now and everyone who doesn’t focus entirely on thoughts and prayers is a terrorist supporter!” That’s your argument right there!
