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Hollow Knight: Silksong sinks to 'Mixed' Steam review status among Chinese gamers over its bafflingly bad translation, with Team Cherry promising to improve it

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  • 1 13igTyme

    This is one reason I’ve effectively stopped caring about steam review bombs. People review bomb over the stupidest shit and never change their review if the tiny issue is fixed

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    ibuthyr@feddit.org
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    I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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    • 1 13igTyme

      This is one reason I’ve effectively stopped caring about steam review bombs. People review bomb over the stupidest shit and never change their review if the tiny issue is fixed

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      korhaka@sopuli.xyz
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      Poor translation seems like a pretty fair reason to me tbh, steam now groups reviews by language too

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      • 1 13igTyme

        This is one reason I’ve effectively stopped caring about steam review bombs. People review bomb over the stupidest shit and never change their review if the tiny issue is fixed

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        regdog@lemmy.world
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        #65

        A game having a bad translation in your language is a valid concern, and not “stupid shit”.

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        • ook@discuss.tchncs.deO ook@discuss.tchncs.de

          Probably excusable when neither one of the devs speak the language. They probably trusted whoever did the translation and that’s that. Seems like an easy fix though.

          I am just curious how bad it could be that you would write a negative review about it. I’ve seen some pretty bad translations in my language, but it never made the game unplayable. I guess difficult to convey when you are not a Chinese speaker, the article examples don’t mean much to me.

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          Cethin
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          #66

          From what I’ve heard, Chinese gamers are significantly more likely to leave a negative review if there are issues. I don’t know if that’s good or bad. I think it’s good for consumers to demand the products they buy to be as good as possible, but it also just makes developers want to avoid them, or do things like Steam has and separate reviews by language by default.

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          • Bilb!B Bilb!

            Yeah, that’s a consequence of putting out a flawed product. Who cares?

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            AwesomeLowlander
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            In this one case, it kinda sucks for the devs since they presumably had no way of knowing they were releasing a flawed product. It was probably the translator that fucked them over.

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            • J jacksilver@lemmy.world

              I mean, it’s not 1:1, but for some of the lines I think I like the Chinese version better. Sometimes the lines in hollow knight/silksong feel empty so adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

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              AwesomeLowlander
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              #68

              adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

              That’s not the job of a bloody translator.

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              • R regdog@lemmy.world

                A game having a bad translation in your language is a valid concern, and not “stupid shit”.

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                lath@lemmy.world
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                #69

                From people who have no translation in their own language, yes it is.

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                • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

                  I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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                  superduperkitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  #70

                  For me, it’s massive shitpost in reviews which I just want to know if the game is good. The worst thing is their often so unfunny and wish there’s a way to filter out those reviews (which is using it loosely)

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                  • R railcar8095@lemmy.world

                    Not a bug/won’t fix

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                    denaggels@feddit.org
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                    Literally a bug

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                    • D denaggels@feddit.org

                      Literally a bug

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                      railcar8095@lemmy.world
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                      #72

                      Bug report: not enough bugs in the city of bugs.

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                      • L lath@lemmy.world

                        From people who have no translation in their own language, yes it is.

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                        ThePuy
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                        #73

                        Big countries really sound entitled when you’ve lived a life of your language not even being considered, I understand where they come from but I can’t help but feel a little aggravated

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                        • A AwesomeLowlander

                          adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

                          That’s not the job of a bloody translator.

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                          jacksilver@lemmy.world
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                          #74

                          I mean yes and no. The translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent. That doesn’t mean things are 1:1.

                          With cryptic and poetic text as seen in these games you certainly can’t just Google translate it.

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                          • A AwesomeLowlander

                            In this one case, it kinda sucks for the devs since they presumably had no way of knowing they were releasing a flawed product. It was probably the translator that fucked them over.

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                            chunes@lemmy.world
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                            #75

                            Don’t sell to markets you don’t understand. I don’t feel sorry for them, even as a big Hollow Knight fan.

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                            • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

                              I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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                              chunes@lemmy.world
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                              #76

                              Yep, this is caused because people flood in from their little discord server where everyone has crawled up the dev’s ass. Once you learn to recognize this you’ll never be able to unsee it.

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                              • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

                                I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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                                Loren
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                                #77

                                Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game.

                                Ironically, this is how I feel about Hollow Knight lol

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                                • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                                  I have played plenty of other games where characters speak in a classical style. Unless it’s being done to mark the characters as old fashioned (or the world is literally set in medieval times) then it comes off as extremely pretentious.

                                  Edit: I know Hollow Knight is sacred in the indie game community. I’m just saying this is something that annoys many people (including me) who prefer verisimilitude and authenticity.

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                                  redacted@lemmy.zip
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                                  Thats the thing, that IS the atmosphere the game goes for, you do not know about what you are talking about.

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                                  • R redacted@lemmy.zip

                                    Thats the thing, that IS the atmosphere the game goes for, you do not know about what you are talking about.

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                                    chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                                    The game is deliberately pretentious? Okay. Then the negative reviews are justified.

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                                    • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                      Don’t sell to markets you don’t understand. I don’t feel sorry for them, even as a big Hollow Knight fan.

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                                      AwesomeLowlander
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                                      I don’t even understand how that logic is supposed to work. Fuck every localisation attempt, then? 99% of games will be English only?

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                                      • J jacksilver@lemmy.world

                                        I mean yes and no. The translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent. That doesn’t mean things are 1:1.

                                        With cryptic and poetic text as seen in these games you certainly can’t just Google translate it.

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                                        AwesomeLowlander
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                                        #81

                                        the lines in hollow knight/silksong feel empty so adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

                                        translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent

                                        Those are not the same thing.

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                                        • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                                          The game is deliberately pretentious? Okay. Then the negative reviews are justified.

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                                          redacted@lemmy.zip
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                                          The people talk like characters from a Shakespeare play, youre just virtue signaling

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