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Hollow Knight: Silksong sinks to 'Mixed' Steam review status among Chinese gamers over its bafflingly bad translation, with Team Cherry promising to improve it

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  • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

    I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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    superduperkitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    For me, it’s massive shitpost in reviews which I just want to know if the game is good. The worst thing is their often so unfunny and wish there’s a way to filter out those reviews (which is using it loosely)

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    • R railcar8095@lemmy.world

      Not a bug/won’t fix

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      denaggels@feddit.org
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      Literally a bug

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      • D denaggels@feddit.org

        Literally a bug

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        railcar8095@lemmy.world
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        Bug report: not enough bugs in the city of bugs.

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        • L lath@lemmy.world

          From people who have no translation in their own language, yes it is.

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          ThePuy
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          #73

          Big countries really sound entitled when you’ve lived a life of your language not even being considered, I understand where they come from but I can’t help but feel a little aggravated

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          • A AwesomeLowlander

            adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

            That’s not the job of a bloody translator.

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            jacksilver@lemmy.world
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            #74

            I mean yes and no. The translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent. That doesn’t mean things are 1:1.

            With cryptic and poetic text as seen in these games you certainly can’t just Google translate it.

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            • A AwesomeLowlander

              In this one case, it kinda sucks for the devs since they presumably had no way of knowing they were releasing a flawed product. It was probably the translator that fucked them over.

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              chunes@lemmy.world
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              #75

              Don’t sell to markets you don’t understand. I don’t feel sorry for them, even as a big Hollow Knight fan.

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              • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

                I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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                chunes@lemmy.world
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                #76

                Yep, this is caused because people flood in from their little discord server where everyone has crawled up the dev’s ass. Once you learn to recognize this you’ll never be able to unsee it.

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                • I ibuthyr@feddit.org

                  I’ve stopped caring about steam reviews completely. Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game. At least I got them refunded.

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                  Loren
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                  #77

                  Too often I have bought a game that was reviewed as overwhelmingly positive and it turned out to be some boring ass niche game.

                  Ironically, this is how I feel about Hollow Knight lol

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                  • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                    I have played plenty of other games where characters speak in a classical style. Unless it’s being done to mark the characters as old fashioned (or the world is literally set in medieval times) then it comes off as extremely pretentious.

                    Edit: I know Hollow Knight is sacred in the indie game community. I’m just saying this is something that annoys many people (including me) who prefer verisimilitude and authenticity.

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                    redacted@lemmy.zip
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                    Thats the thing, that IS the atmosphere the game goes for, you do not know about what you are talking about.

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                    • R redacted@lemmy.zip

                      Thats the thing, that IS the atmosphere the game goes for, you do not know about what you are talking about.

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                      chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                      #79

                      The game is deliberately pretentious? Okay. Then the negative reviews are justified.

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                      • C chunes@lemmy.world

                        Don’t sell to markets you don’t understand. I don’t feel sorry for them, even as a big Hollow Knight fan.

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                        AwesomeLowlander
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                        I don’t even understand how that logic is supposed to work. Fuck every localisation attempt, then? 99% of games will be English only?

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                        • J jacksilver@lemmy.world

                          I mean yes and no. The translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent. That doesn’t mean things are 1:1.

                          With cryptic and poetic text as seen in these games you certainly can’t just Google translate it.

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                          AwesomeLowlander
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                          #81

                          the lines in hollow knight/silksong feel empty so adding a bit “more” isn’t too bad.

                          translator is supposed to make sure the text conveys the same meaning/intent

                          Those are not the same thing.

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                          • C chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world

                            The game is deliberately pretentious? Okay. Then the negative reviews are justified.

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                            redacted@lemmy.zip
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                            The people talk like characters from a Shakespeare play, youre just virtue signaling

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                            • R redacted@lemmy.zip

                              The people talk like characters from a Shakespeare play, youre just virtue signaling

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                              chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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                              Believe me, no one gives a damn about a critic.

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                              • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

                                One of the characters says „and btw Taiwan is a sovereign nation“

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                                  Update: Hollow Knight: Silksong sinks to 'Mostly Negative' Steam review status among Chinese gamers over its bafflingly bad translation, with Team Cherry promising to improve it

                                  The extent of the issues makes it sound like a tall order.

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                                  douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  I thought stream updated policies so that this time of foreign review bombing wouldn’t be as apparent? (Reviews in your specific region counting)

                                  Edit: they did. Still is very positive for everyone else

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                                  • D douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                    I thought stream updated policies so that this time of foreign review bombing wouldn’t be as apparent? (Reviews in your specific region counting)

                                    Edit: they did. Still is very positive for everyone else

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                                    vitorobles@lemmy.today
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                                    I actually don’t know if it’s Steam or Enhanced Steam but there’s a way to filter reviews by language. It’s really neat to see something like overwhelmingly positive in one country, and mixed/negative in another country.

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                                      Update: Hollow Knight: Silksong sinks to 'Mostly Negative' Steam review status among Chinese gamers over its bafflingly bad translation, with Team Cherry promising to improve it

                                      The extent of the issues makes it sound like a tall order.

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                                      zoeparker@lemmy.ca
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                                      Things feeling overly flowery. Wuxia-style or even nonsensical, clearly show that tone matters as much as accuracy in localization. Let’s hope the upcoming fixes restore the game’s intended mood and readability for all players.

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                                      • C Cethin

                                        From what I’ve heard, Chinese gamers are significantly more likely to leave a negative review if there are issues. I don’t know if that’s good or bad. I think it’s good for consumers to demand the products they buy to be as good as possible, but it also just makes developers want to avoid them, or do things like Steam has and separate reviews by language by default.

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                                        vitorobles@lemmy.today
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                                        We got jabronis who leave bad reviews because games are woke.

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                                        • V vitorobles@lemmy.today

                                          I actually don’t know if it’s Steam or Enhanced Steam but there’s a way to filter reviews by language. It’s really neat to see something like overwhelmingly positive in one country, and mixed/negative in another country.

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                                          douchebagmcswag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          Oh that’s was a default steam change (for the better)

                                          Got tired of seeing random Chinese bullshit review bombing because a non-foreign specific game didn’t give enough glory to the CCP and china to appease nationalists

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