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FBI says it's now seized "multiple" ROM piracy sites, claims downloads resulted in $170m losses in just three months

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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    callouscomic@lemmy.zip
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    The government fights this hard over labor’s lost wages too, right?

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    • W who

      It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

      In other words:

      • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
      • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

      Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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      Fluffy Kitty Cat
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      RIAA math

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      • Nik282000N Nik282000

        Fuuuuuck Nintendo. No one hates their fans more than Nintendo.

        They are bricking brand new consoles, locking their USB ports to approved hardware, charging for the tech demo that would customarily be free on an $800 device. And that’s just this year.

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        D_C
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        I refused to buy anything Sony due to the dodgy shit from the PS3 days. And that’s anything, no TV’s or phones. Nothing. If a film is made by Sony I don’t go to the cinema to see it.

        Microsoft is the same. I have only once bought anything from Microsoft and that was a licence for a windows operating system but I can’t even remember which version it was. I know it was from before Windows7. However, never again.

        And now Nintendo is on my shit list.

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        • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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          Stern
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          I have torrented Mario Kart World one thousand times since it launched and have thus cost Nintendo 70,000 dollars. If I can keep up this pace, Nintendo will be bankrupt within the next year or two.

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            AItoothbrush
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            These loss figures are always fun. Me pirating a game i would NEVER have played otherwise is not a 50€(with todays game prices, 80€) loss for the company. On the other hand there are games that i pirated first because i wasnt sure it would be worth it for me to buy it and then actually bought it when i decided it would be fun to play and wanted to support the company.

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            • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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              monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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              How much is that in increased sales due to piracy?

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              The EU Suppressed a 300-Page Study That Found Piracy Doesn’t Harm Sales

              The European Commission paid €360,000 (about $428,000) for a study on how piracy impacts the sales of copyrighted music, books, video games, and movies.

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              Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)

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              • SternS Stern

                I have torrented Mario Kart World one thousand times since it launched and have thus cost Nintendo 70,000 dollars. If I can keep up this pace, Nintendo will be bankrupt within the next year or two.

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                arcterus@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                Fighting the good fight

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                • C callouscomic@lemmy.zip

                  The government fights this hard over labor’s lost wages too, right?

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                  softestsapphic@lemmy.world
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                  Just chuckled at the idea of the FBI doing something valuable for society.

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                    vane@lemmy.world
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                    cc site still works. nsw2u 1 : 0 fbi

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                    • SternS Stern

                      I have torrented Mario Kart World one thousand times since it launched and have thus cost Nintendo 70,000 dollars. If I can keep up this pace, Nintendo will be bankrupt within the next year or two.

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                      richarddegenne@lemmy.zip
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                      It’s like girlsmath but for CFOs, I love it

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                        acefuzzlord@lemmy.zip
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                        I love how they always try to pull the same bull that if the only way to obtain something like a ROM was through legal means that these companies would suddenly see a surge of millions more in revenue.

                        It’s just as absurd as the people who say that thoughts and prayers alone will eventually end all school shootings in America.

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                        • A AItoothbrush

                          These loss figures are always fun. Me pirating a game i would NEVER have played otherwise is not a 50€(with todays game prices, 80€) loss for the company. On the other hand there are games that i pirated first because i wasnt sure it would be worth it for me to buy it and then actually bought it when i decided it would be fun to play and wanted to support the company.

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                          Sas [she/her]
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                          I got into the Age of Wonders franchise through a burned disc by our upstairs neighbour as a child. I have bought every game (except planetfall) in that franchise by now. I’d probably never have tried that game without said burned disc

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                            TPB is basically immortal. Any instance taken down can be back up in minutes. It’s a game of whack-a-mole you can never win.

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                            prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                            Yeah, there’s dozens of mirrors up at all times

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                              rozodru@lemmy.world
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                              Hey FBI thanks for letting me know about nsw2u cc I had no idea this thing existed…but now I do, so thank you.

                              seriously though I use the megathread and it has quite literally everything. literally the only good thing to come from reddit.

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                              • SternS Stern

                                I have torrented Mario Kart World one thousand times since it launched and have thus cost Nintendo 70,000 dollars. If I can keep up this pace, Nintendo will be bankrupt within the next year or two.

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                                Kitty Jynx
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                                • S Sas [she/her]

                                  I got into the Age of Wonders franchise through a burned disc by our upstairs neighbour as a child. I have bought every game (except planetfall) in that franchise by now. I’d probably never have tried that game without said burned disc

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                                  AlphaOmega
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                                  That’s the same way I was introduced to Half Life. Valve has made that money back 1000 fold

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                                  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                                    squid64@lemmy.ca
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                                    I am broke af I would never have bought the game if I didn’t get it for free. So they lose nothing if it’s from me. Same for TV series and movies.

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                                      aislopmukbang@sh.itjust.works
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                                      The list of sites:

                                      On top of Nsw2u’s closure, the FBI says its investigation - performed with the assistance of the Fiscal Information and Investigation Service in the Netherlands - had additionally resulted in authorisation to seize the domain of “multiple” other sites, including nswdl.com, game-2u.com, bigngame.com, ps4pkg.com, ps4pkg.net, and mgnetu.com.

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                                      • W who

                                        It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                                        In other words:

                                        • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                                        • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                                        Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                                        alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                                        They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.

                                        You’re wrong, your presumption assume one single person to download a single file he/she never ear about.

                                        What’s most likely, people download ROMs for nostalgia, ie: something they, or their parents, bought them when they were children. So, if we assume someone download their “childhood library” which was already paid, of about ~30 cartridge (admitted the download is the right one, and didn’t required multiple download attempt); in the view of the FBI, that single person “stole” 3180 USD he/she paid ~20 years ago.

                                        You’re not just supposed to lose the things you bought, you’re supposed to be fined (for attempt to play the product you already paid) with price updated to current industry standard.

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                                        • squid64@lemmy.caS squid64@lemmy.ca

                                          I am broke af I would never have bought the game if I didn’t get it for free. So they lose nothing if it’s from me. Same for TV series and movies.

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                                          Hanrahan
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                                          Yeah… they’ve been playing tbis broken record for decades now, if.what they say was true, there’d be no muaic industry, no film and tv industry and no game industry by now.

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