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FBI says it's now seized "multiple" ROM piracy sites, claims downloads resulted in $170m losses in just three months

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  • E emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    So we’ve got a kilo of cocaine, but thats gonna be cut to 4 or 5 times its weight probably, so let’s call that 5kg. Then lets assume each of those 1000 grams is gonna be broken down into 50 20mg single doses, and lets say those addicts are gonna pay 20 bucks for a single dose. Thats $1000 per gram, time 5kg, we’ve got ourselves a nice 5million dollar bust here. Call the papers and print it.

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    frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    How data driven are cartels, anyway? Seems like they should be getting stats on loss rate to busts and calculating that in. They run as a business and want real numbers.

    They’re a group that builds their own autonomous submarines. They gotta be calculating this.

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      lustyargonian@lemmy.zip
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      So now the company will have ~100m extra revenue in the next 3 months? Right? Right?

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        nocturnalmorning@lemmy.world
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        Focusing on the important issues…

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        • N n0t_5ure@lemmy.world

          Reminds me of the math used by cops when they seize drugs to come up with an absurd amount of money to make it look like they’re having an impact on the never-ending war on drugs.

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          ObjectivityIncarnate
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          #24

          Don’t know how accurate it is, but I’ve heard of even CSAM being inflated this way in police busts, where if there’s a video that’s X seconds long and has a framerate of Y frames per second, it will be described as X * Y “images” (so a 10-second 60 fps video is treated like it’s the same thing as 600 photos) instead of plainly describing a video as being a video.

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            samus12345@sh.itjust.works
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            #25

            Bummer, I used that site a lot back when there were actual Switch games I wanted to play. Guess I’ll have to get Metroid Prime 4 elsewhere when the time comes!

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            • B burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world

              the FBI acting like when you were home alone all day and you did jack shit, but your hear your mom pull in the driveway and remember the chores she asked you to do, so you set the trash can on fire to make it look like youre doing something

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              bcsven@lemmy.ca
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              Lol. Perception becomes peoples reality.

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              • C cenzorrll@lemmy.ca

                One of the pirate party guys made a Raspberry pi doohickey that did exactly that to show how stupid these calculations are. It constantly downloaded to a null device, or moved it to a null device once compete so the file never existed except incredibly briefly. I think it also tracked how many times it was downloaded so the “cost” could be calculated.

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                Coelacanth
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                That’s brilliant. It’s a shame it will have no impact and the copyright mafia will continue their relentless assault until we are all microchipped at birth with neural inhibitors that physically prevents us from consuming digital material we haven’t purchased. Brain-implant DRM is the end goal.

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                  rdri@lemmy.world
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                  So Nintendo is gonna become richer by that amount in just 3 months?

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                  • W who

                    It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                    In other words:

                    • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                    • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                    Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                    theobvioussolution@lemmy.ca
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                    I mean, it’s a Trump appointee. Was there ever any doubt?

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                      fwiw, modchips for the Switch are commonplace and while I haven’t been on any of the listed sites there are plenty with similar sounding names that offer Switch games for download.

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                      arudesalad@sh.itjust.works
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                      I might have bought more switch games if Nintendo made the switch actually usable by fixing drift on their controllers. I would be playing Nintendo games (I legally own) on my switch instead of emulating them but I can’t.

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                      • W who

                        It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                        In other words:

                        • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                        • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                        Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                        penguintd@lemmy.ca
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                        there is a reason humble bundle’s pay what you want model worked, lol. I bet if humble bundle allows company to get data back for pricing analysis, it would greatly help the indies.

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                          Nik282000
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                          Fuuuuuck Nintendo. No one hates their fans more than Nintendo.

                          They are bricking brand new consoles, locking their USB ports to approved hardware, charging for the tech demo that would customarily be free on an $800 device. And that’s just this year.

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                          • T TachyonTele

                            Do they only target torrent sites or something? Because there’s places that have been around for decades that are still up and fine.

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                            BurgerBaron
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                            Usually just fools from the USA hosting within the USA under their real names and payment information.

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                            • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮

                              What losses? Why do these people assume that pirates were ever going to purchase the goods they pirated?

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                              lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                              Especially Nintendo. I wouldn’t be surprised if Nintendo is less affected by piracy than games on PC just because of the barrier to entry to even be able to purchase a Nintendo game with the console being first required.

                              And Nintendo is the most expensive console too with how sales are so rare for their exclusives compared to the other consoles, so likely not even on the radar for pirates who are already looking to not spend money. Console doesn’t award even patient gaming with games not dropping much even after years go by for their exclusives.

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                              • W who

                                It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                                In other words:

                                • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                                • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                                Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                                molten@lemmy.world
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                                Exactly. When I “used to” pirate games (dear me! I would never dare break those little laws now) it was originally because I was way too broke to pay for them. When I had more pay I later bought nearly everything I had pirated and actually played on gog or steam. Since then it’s just easier to use steam or GOG than to pirate and scan and install and mess with my firewall and install the crack and diagnose wtf I messed up. Since then I only ever pirated games I’d never ever buy. If you count every game I pirated (sometimes up to three times based on if there were issues, virus scanner pings, lost the file and reinstalled on another drive, etc…) as a lost sale I’ve potentially caused up to 10k or more in losses over the hundreds of games I’ve illicitly downloaded. Most of which, again, I downloaded with a bank balance that hovered near 0$.

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                                • N nocturnalmorning@lemmy.world

                                  Focusing on the important issues…

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                                  反いじめ戦隊
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                                  Like installing fascism in 🇺🇲

                                  🙄

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                                  • B burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world

                                    the FBI acting like when you were home alone all day and you did jack shit, but your hear your mom pull in the driveway and remember the chores she asked you to do, so you set the trash can on fire to make it look like youre doing something

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                                    反いじめ戦隊
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                                    They are also abducting citizens, just cause.

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                                      callouscomic@lemmy.zip
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                                      The government fights this hard over labor’s lost wages too, right?

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                                        It also claimed these websites had seen cumulative downloads of 3.2m in just three months this year - from 28th February and 28th May - resulting “in an estimated loss of $170m”.

                                        In other words:

                                        • They assumed that every download was by someone who would otherwise have paid over 53 USD for it, which by itself is an absurd delusion.
                                        • They described imaginary money that they never had in the first place as “losses”, which is a plain lie. You can’t lose something that you never had.

                                        Given that both these blatant falsehoods match the propaganda that big media parasite corporations started pushing a few decades ago, it seems pretty clear who the taxpayer-funded FBI is working for.

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                                        Fluffy Kitty Cat
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                                        RIAA math

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                                        • Nik282000N Nik282000

                                          Fuuuuuck Nintendo. No one hates their fans more than Nintendo.

                                          They are bricking brand new consoles, locking their USB ports to approved hardware, charging for the tech demo that would customarily be free on an $800 device. And that’s just this year.

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                                          D_C
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                                          I refused to buy anything Sony due to the dodgy shit from the PS3 days. And that’s anything, no TV’s or phones. Nothing. If a film is made by Sony I don’t go to the cinema to see it.

                                          Microsoft is the same. I have only once bought anything from Microsoft and that was a licence for a windows operating system but I can’t even remember which version it was. I know it was from before Windows7. However, never again.

                                          And now Nintendo is on my shit list.

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