Epic CEO Tim Sweeney takes yet another victory lap after Apple's latest appeal fails: 'The long national nightmare of the Apple tax is ended'
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Steam takes just as big a cut as Apple
But UE already supports Linux export and when Epic bought EAC the first thing they did was give it Linux support so they have already done what you asked
Unless you’re talking about Fortnite
The size of the cut is what they use for the appeal to the public to build their social narrative, but legally/economically speaking it’s not really the problem. The problem is that Apple effectively forbids developers from having any other mechanism to transact with customers except through their marketplace where they take the 30% cut, hence the lawsuit being about monopolistic practices, not the amount they’re charging.
Valve handles things completely differently. Sure, listing on the Steam store requires giving Valve a 30% cut of the purchase price, but Steam doesn’t demand a 30% cut of any and all transactions that happen within or related to the game like Apple does. You also don’t have to buy a game from the Steam store to load it and launch it from the Steam client. And Proton works with a lot more games and applications than just those on the Steam store.
The fact that the two companies charge a similar price for a single relatively similar business case oversimplifies a lot of how the two companies operate.
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I’m so happy this other large company which wants to embed itself as a storefront and soak up fees won against the other large company which was already doing it.
Like, genuinely I am, but Epic isn’t doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. Epic/Sweeney is mostly sad they didn’t have the monopoly first.
Who cares? It’s a win for everyone.
Biggest disappointment is that it took a rich twat to twist the government’s arm and do what should’ve done 10 years ago.
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The size of the cut is what they use for the appeal to the public to build their social narrative, but legally/economically speaking it’s not really the problem. The problem is that Apple effectively forbids developers from having any other mechanism to transact with customers except through their marketplace where they take the 30% cut, hence the lawsuit being about monopolistic practices, not the amount they’re charging.
Valve handles things completely differently. Sure, listing on the Steam store requires giving Valve a 30% cut of the purchase price, but Steam doesn’t demand a 30% cut of any and all transactions that happen within or related to the game like Apple does. You also don’t have to buy a game from the Steam store to load it and launch it from the Steam client. And Proton works with a lot more games and applications than just those on the Steam store.
The fact that the two companies charge a similar price for a single relatively similar business case oversimplifies a lot of how the two companies operate.
Wine you mean
Proton is mostly just Wine with the Steam Launcher
But that has nothing to do with supporting Linux, it exists for people who don’t support Linux
And the discussion was being able to afford supporting it so the cut very much matters
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Steam takes just as big a cut as Apple
But UE already supports Linux export and when Epic bought EAC the first thing they did was give it Linux support so they have already done what you asked
Unless you’re talking about Fortnite
I think they probably mean having a launcher that installs on Linux and games that don’t need tweaking to run on Linux. Like Steam does it.
Unless you’re talking about Fortnite
Another excellent point.
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Epic CEO Tim Sweeney takes yet another victory lap after Apple's latest appeal fails: 'The long national nightmare of the Apple tax is ended'
Tim, you're gonna make Tim Cook retire early.
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Tim apple got cucked by Weaponized autism
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I think they probably mean having a launcher that installs on Linux and games that don’t need tweaking to run on Linux. Like Steam does it.
Unless you’re talking about Fortnite
Another excellent point.
Heroic already fills the first part
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Heroic already fills the first part
Heroic is not made by Epic. We’re talking about first class first-party support. And Heroic doesn’t work very well either.
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Heroic is not made by Epic. We’re talking about first class first-party support. And Heroic doesn’t work very well either.
We don’t want first party support
Stores are stores
Launchers are launchers
Communities are communities
Software works when it is specialized and leaves open for others to build on
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Weaponized autism? You mean obscene Fortnite money?
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We don’t want first party support
Stores are stores
Launchers are launchers
Communities are communities
Software works when it is specialized and leaves open for others to build on
“We” very much do. I have no interest in spending my days debugging broken software.
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Then you wouldn’t like steam on linux after various updates
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Then you wouldn’t like steam on linux after various updates
Steam on Linux works perfectly.
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What’s the cat in the hat line? You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid
ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
Issue tracking for the Steam for Linux beta client - ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
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Not every issue is on Valve but saying it’s perfect just shows you haven’t used it
And you certainly didn’t use it back when the file dialogue couldn’t view outside the steam directory
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What’s the cat in the hat line? You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid
ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
Issue tracking for the Steam for Linux beta client - ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux
GitHub (github.com)
Not every issue is on Valve but saying it’s perfect just shows you haven’t used it
And you certainly didn’t use it back when the file dialogue couldn’t view outside the steam directory
Well that’s unnecessarily fucking rude.
What I meant was, it works perfectly for me.
And you certainly didn’t use it back when the file dialogue couldn’t view outside the steam directory
…I don’t understand what that has to do with anything. I don’t play games in the past.
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Who cares? It’s a win for everyone.
Biggest disappointment is that it took a rich twat to twist the government’s arm and do what should’ve done 10 years ago.
Give Tim Sweeney lots of money? Why would the government do that?
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Give Tim Sweeney lots of money? Why would the government do that?
…why would anyone do that?
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I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.
You can make some vague claims that it’s going to be good for small businesses and independent developers… but realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.
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I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.
You can make some vague claims that it’s going to be good for small businesses and independent developers… but realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich. Any benefit to anyone else is going to be negligible.
I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.
I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.
realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich
…you mean Apple? No. It will benefit literally everyone else.
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I mean, it’s what you’re celebrating.
I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.
realistically it’s only going to pad the pockets of the already rich
…you mean Apple? No. It will benefit literally everyone else.
… do you think Apple is the only highly successful company in the world? There’s tons of others… like Epic.
I don’t even know what money you’re talking about. Hard to celebrate that.
At least you admit to your ignorance, that’s the first step to actually knowing what the hell you’re talking about
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Well that’s unnecessarily fucking rude.
What I meant was, it works perfectly for me.
And you certainly didn’t use it back when the file dialogue couldn’t view outside the steam directory
…I don’t understand what that has to do with anything. I don’t play games in the past.
You would know it’s imperfect
I apologize for being rude and now you have a resource to use when something goes wrong