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  • I imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com

    I knew it. I still clicked but I knew it. The sound in my head. It has never stopped.

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    snoons@lemmy.ca
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    Around the wuuuurld around nhe wuuurrrld

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    • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬D 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬

      8 GB of VRAM and 16 GB of RAM … those are the specs of my almost 15 years old legacy machine. I doubt that the Steam Machine outperforms anything made in the last 5-10 years.

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      feyd@programming.dev
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      Do you think RAM is the only thing that factors into performance?..

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      • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬D 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬

        8 GB of VRAM and 16 GB of RAM … those are the specs of my almost 15 years old legacy machine. I doubt that the Steam Machine outperforms anything made in the last 5-10 years.

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        imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Many modern games can run on a 780m integrated AMD GPU(APU) with FSR and other bells and whistles enabled. One can run some games on a em680 - a palm-sized PC with underpowered 680m GPU. It is not gonna be 4k@60 of course. Could probably be 1080p@30 depending on release year, requirements and settings. But that is a super tiny computer with a built-in GPU that has more power over your typical GPU from 2015!

        Now, Steam Machine is going to have a dedicated GPU that is around as powerful as 7600. With FMF and FSR it could probabaly do many games from 2020 to today at 4k@60. Hardware is not as bad as many think here. There are not so many games that require more than 8gb of VRAM. Maybe they also design SteamOS to work better with custom PCs that are more powerful than Steam Machines. Who knows? But so far, hardware is not so outdated and will be sufficient for a few years.

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        • R ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com

          This thing has 1/6th the ongoing utility cost of a spec’d out gaming pc (assuming 850w psu and something like 4090 and 7900x3d). Granted it’s not much to run a pc like that, like 15-20 a month, but running this thing will cost like $2-3 at most. Its power supply is 43% smaller than a ps5s.

          Not gonna be the deciding factor for most people but something to consider. Does 4k120 really matter vs 4k60? Do you really need to turn every slider to ultra? In a world that is boiling with energy costs that are ever increasing?

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          fatvegan@leminal.space
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          In my humble opinion, 4k is a bit of a joke. I pick a high as possible frame rate over 4k any day of the week.

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          • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥T This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥

            Why aren’t they using SOBRIGHT modules, are they stupid?

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            sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            … I’m still waiting for SOFETCH format to catch on…

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              Valve Claims Steam Machine Outperforms 70% of Current Gaming PCs

              When Valve introduced its Steam Machine cube gaming console/PC, the gaming community began questioning the hardware choices and Valve's performance claims. However, a Valve engineer stated that the Steam Machine is more powerful than 70% of gaming PCs on the market, based on Steam Survey data. It fe...

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              1ostA5tro6yne
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              itt gamers act like anything that doesn’t do ray tracing is literally a commodore 64.

              yall got some spoiled child ass ideas about hardware longevity, im over here on a 3gb 960 running most things just fine on lowered settings.

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              • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬D 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬

                8 GB of VRAM and 16 GB of RAM … those are the specs of my almost 15 years old legacy machine. I doubt that the Steam Machine outperforms anything made in the last 5-10 years.

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                sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                This is the moment where you realize that you are either uncommonly wealthy, or spend significantly more of your money on gaming pcs than most people do.

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                • A arcterus

                  I’m always amazed how much you get taxed for prebuilts. This thing is at least $1k more than what I spent (with a similar config), and the CPU is still worse than the one I got lol.

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                  sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #27

                  I agree with you, but, I also realize that I’ve been building my own PCs and keeping up with the ins and outs of hardware/software design/developments since roughly the age of 14.

                  Most people don’t do that.

                  Most people (in the US) read write and think at a 5th or 6th grade level.

                  They just want box that make play video game go whee!

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                  • A arcterus

                    I’m always amazed how much you get taxed for prebuilts. This thing is at least $1k more than what I spent (with a similar config), and the CPU is still worse than the one I got lol.

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                    frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Are we looking at the same link? The one I see is listed for $1099, so I’m not sure how you managed to spend $1k less.

                    Though anything with an Intel Ultra CPU should go right in the garbage, but that’s a different issue.

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                    • C 1ostA5tro6yne

                      itt gamers act like anything that doesn’t do ray tracing is literally a commodore 64.

                      yall got some spoiled child ass ideas about hardware longevity, im over here on a 3gb 960 running most things just fine on lowered settings.

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                      SuiXi3D
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                      Do you blame them? So many games these days force ray tracing. If your card can’t do that very well, then that game runs like crap.

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                        Do you blame them? So many games these days force ray tracing. If your card can’t do that very well, then that game runs like crap.

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                        yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                        What games? the overpriced crap pushed by big companies, that massively fails on using UE5, that do look worse than 10yo games with worse performance? Sure popular, but I’d be happy when they fails.

                        Fuck ea, ubi, actiblizz and all their copy-paste year to year shit!

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                        • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬D 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬

                          8 GB of VRAM and 16 GB of RAM … those are the specs of my almost 15 years old legacy machine. I doubt that the Steam Machine outperforms anything made in the last 5-10 years.

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                          yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Must be nice to have such awesome 15yo machine, as my 6yo still have only 4gb vram (1650s).

                          If You had enough coins to buy top top tier 2010 rig with 8gb vram back then, You surely had much to upgrade it in 2015, 2020, and also did nice 5090 upgrade this year too! Who cares single 5090rtx do cost 4-6x than whole Gabecube is expected to cost.

                          Having industry market is awesome, You can find something ultra powered for Yourself, and I can do find some budget for myself too.

                          Ngl, I’m slightly jealous You’re in the top 30%, even top of the top of it these 30%, that article is NOT about.

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                          • F fatvegan@leminal.space

                            In my humble opinion, 4k is a bit of a joke. I pick a high as possible frame rate over 4k any day of the week.

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                            moody@lemmings.world
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                            With AAA game graphics, 4K is kind of silly.

                            It kind of makes sense on consoles with fixed hardware when the devs design specifically to hit that target.

                            On a PC, I think high framerate 1440p is a much more reasonable goal, but frame generation and upscaling are sold to consumers like some magical solution to poor performance instead.

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                            • C 1ostA5tro6yne

                              itt gamers act like anything that doesn’t do ray tracing is literally a commodore 64.

                              yall got some spoiled child ass ideas about hardware longevity, im over here on a 3gb 960 running most things just fine on lowered settings.

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                              prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              Some modern games look like absolute dirty brown water trash when you lower the settings a ton

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                              • F fatvegan@leminal.space

                                In my humble opinion, 4k is a bit of a joke. I pick a high as possible frame rate over 4k any day of the week.

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                                prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                Yeah I tried playing Dispatch on my TV in 4k, and it sounded and felt like my laptop was going to catch on fire.

                                Lowered the TVs resolution to 1080p, and the game looks exactly the same and the fans barely even turn on.

                                That could be an optimization issue though I guess.

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                                • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD die4ever@retrolemmy.com

                                  I’m sure it does, considering even my old busted laptop has hit the Steam hardware survey before, but it’s not one of my primary gaming PCs.

                                  Another way of saying this is Steam Machine is slower than about 44 million gaming PCs (30% x 147 MAU, a very conservative number since that’s monthly and number of users instead of number of computers).

                                  The fact that its GPU is slower than the 5 year old PS5’s, and it only has 8GB VRAM, makes me question Steam Machine’s longevity. And it apparently can’t do FSR4 cause it’s RDNA3.

                                  It needs to be cheap.

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                                  mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Source on RDNA3 on Linux not doing FSR4? Linux drivers are far ahead of Windows drivers.

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                                  • yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zoneY yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    What games? the overpriced crap pushed by big companies, that massively fails on using UE5, that do look worse than 10yo games with worse performance? Sure popular, but I’d be happy when they fails.

                                    Fuck ea, ubi, actiblizz and all their copy-paste year to year shit!

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                                    SuiXi3D
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                                    Indies, too. Not just big publishers/developers using UE5.

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                                      I’m sure it does, considering even my old busted laptop has hit the Steam hardware survey before, but it’s not one of my primary gaming PCs.

                                      Another way of saying this is Steam Machine is slower than about 44 million gaming PCs (30% x 147 MAU, a very conservative number since that’s monthly and number of users instead of number of computers).

                                      The fact that its GPU is slower than the 5 year old PS5’s, and it only has 8GB VRAM, makes me question Steam Machine’s longevity. And it apparently can’t do FSR4 cause it’s RDNA3.

                                      It needs to be cheap.

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                                      mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      Steam survey is monthly too and most people don’t have two computers

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                                        yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                        Looks like many do forgot, this is mid-cheap intended machine, not top tier tech race.

                                        Still some depends on price, but I’m hyped for 500€ upgrade of whole 6yo rig, all in one, well build (not like most supermarket prebuild crap). I see flaws in Cube, may need to spend some 100€ extra for missing things (sdd to usb adapters, audio extractor from hdmi to 3.5jacks, extra sdcard for less intense data), still hyped.

                                        Like this is cheap family car talks, Koenigsegg is 2 links to the left.

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                                          mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                          The majority of gamers game at 1080p. Both on PCs, and especially on consoles. Most people’s TVs aren’t even big enough for people with average eyesight to see a difference between 1080p and 2160p.

                                          So the question to ask is if the steam deck is too slow, because the steam machine at 1080p will solidly beat the steam deck at 800p.

                                          If you want something faster for desktop, just build a matx mid tower with a 9070xt. It’ll cost double, but you’ll be able to game in 2160p.

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