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  • D deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz

    Global warming fell out of favor, while true: morr energy in the system, higher average temperatures; it confuses some people.

    I.e. more energy means more extreme extremes. So cold events can also get worse and more frequent. To a lay person that’s a contradiction.

    Climate change gained favor as a more lay friendly name.

    Also there was some idiot US congressman/senator who brought a snowball into the house as evidence that global warming was a hoax.

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    tehn00bi@lemmy.world
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    I’m a fan of climate destabilization myself.

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    • E eq0@literature.cafe

      That I knew, but the phrasing seems sarcastic towards climate change, that’s mainly what i wanted clarity on.

      Building on your answer, if the Gulf Stream were to break, Europe’s temperatures would drop, and at the moment there is still no understanding of how close we are to the Gulf Stream collapsing.

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      tehn00bi@lemmy.world
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      Let’s not forget this very real threat

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      Collapse of key Atlantic currents may be held off by newly-discovered back-up system, study finds

      Rising temperatures in the North Atlantic are slowing vital currents, but a new process in the Arctic could save the day, scientists say.

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      • S sanctimoniousape@lemmings.world

        To answer your question, it was indeed a sarcastic comment on the BS surrounding CC being somehow more politically acceptable than the truth of GW. I’ve never been a proud American (in part because of the truth in “pride goeth before a fall,” even though I’m not religious), but I’ve never been less proud than I’ve been forced to become over the past couple of decades.

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        eq0@literature.cafe
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        As the other commenter said, Global Warming fell out of favor because it underlines only one part of the full problem. The weather in most places is getting warmer, but other things are also happening connected to it: extreme events are becoming more and more common, such as drought, flooding and forest fires, that might not seem included in the wording global warming but is clearly described by climate change.

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        • T tehn00bi@lemmy.world

          Let’s not forget this very real threat

          Link Preview Image
          Collapse of key Atlantic currents may be held off by newly-discovered back-up system, study finds

          Rising temperatures in the North Atlantic are slowing vital currents, but a new process in the Arctic could save the day, scientists say.

          favicon

          Live Science (www.livescience.com)

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          eq0@literature.cafe
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          The science is still very unclear, both from a modeling perspective (what are the pieces of the puzzle and how to connect them), a simplified perspective (what pieces are most important) and a theoretical perspective (what typical behavior should we detect close to the collapse).

          Unfortunately, the latter one’s answer seems to be that close to bifurcations in statistical differential equations the variance of a system increases. Decrypting the math: close to a sudden change, we should experience a wider variety of events that usual, in particular more extreme events. This seems to be happening to the AMOC, but support for the claim is still weak and unclear (because the modeling is unclear, so we don’t know what pieces should be included in the problem).

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          • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

            cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31723667

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            Avid Amoeba
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            I see Torontario but I don’t kmow what that stuff to the west is.

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            • J justOnePersistentKbinPlease

              OPs image shows that they dont know where the prairie cities are.
              Or Quebec and the Maritimes.

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              sbv@sh.itjust.works
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              no no cornwall is as far east as it gets

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              • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31723667

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                olaren_uwu@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                quebec erasure

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                • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                  cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31723667

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                  sbv@sh.itjust.works
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                  • olaren_uwu@lemmy.blahaj.zoneO olaren_uwu@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    quebec erasure

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                    setVeryLoud(true);
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                    #39

                    Maritimes erasure, too

                    idk wtf the maritimes and Quebec did to this guy

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                    • Avid AmoebaA Avid Amoeba

                      I see Torontario but I don’t kmow what that stuff to the west is.

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                      setVeryLoud(true);
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                      #40

                      Don’t worry, it’s all farm land and forest fires x)

                      If you go far enough, you get racism, followed by unaffordable housing.

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                      • S sbv@sh.itjust.works

                        no no cornwall is as far east as it gets

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                        setVeryLoud(true);
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                        damn, what a sad end

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                        • cecilkorik@lemmy.caC cecilkorik@lemmy.ca

                          Yeah but it’s cold and groceries are expensive and amazon doesn’t deliver.

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                          thefool@sh.itjust.works
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                          I cancelled my (Amazon Canada) Amazon Prime account after I saw Bezos standing behind Trump at the inauguration.

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                          • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                            cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31723667

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                            fourish@lemmy.world
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                            Room up there but what about good careers that aren’t in natural resources?

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                            • E eq0@literature.cafe

                              As the other commenter said, Global Warming fell out of favor because it underlines only one part of the full problem. The weather in most places is getting warmer, but other things are also happening connected to it: extreme events are becoming more and more common, such as drought, flooding and forest fires, that might not seem included in the wording global warming but is clearly described by climate change.

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                              sanctimoniousape@lemmings.world
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                              #44

                              While that’s true, in America at least the fact that average global temperatures are rising in large part due to human activities has been a significant point of contention with conservatives who seemingly instinctively deny responsibility for anything negative that they and/or their preferred policies are contributing to. They fought against “Global Warming” tooth and nail despite the documented facts. They more begrudgingly accepted “Climate Change” because it could at least be spun more easily into outcomes that didn’t make them look so bad.

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                              • S sanctimoniousape@lemmings.world

                                While that’s true, in America at least the fact that average global temperatures are rising in large part due to human activities has been a significant point of contention with conservatives who seemingly instinctively deny responsibility for anything negative that they and/or their preferred policies are contributing to. They fought against “Global Warming” tooth and nail despite the documented facts. They more begrudgingly accepted “Climate Change” because it could at least be spun more easily into outcomes that didn’t make them look so bad.

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                                eq0@literature.cafe
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                                I see… thanks for explaining where you were coming from! I honestly only vaguely remember the times when Global Warming was the naming, and here countries are mostly springing in action when talking about the ramifications of Climate Change. Even if we hardly tackle the root cause… 😕

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                                • FenrirIIIF FenrirIII

                                  cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31723667

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                                  amuletta@lemmy.ca
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                                  I guess Lloydminster, Saskatoon and Prince Albert are not Canadian cities then.

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                                  • A amuletta@lemmy.ca

                                    I guess Lloydminster, Saskatoon and Prince Albert are not Canadian cities then.

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                                    warehouse@lemmy.ca
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                                    Or Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Regina, St. John’s, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Montreal, …

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                                    • W warehouse@lemmy.ca

                                      Or Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Regina, St. John’s, Fredericton, Halifax, Charlottetown, Montreal, …

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                                      canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                      I mean, it is the lions share of our population down there. And wouldn’t Winnipeg be in it?

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                                      • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                                        I mean, it is the lions share of our population down there. And wouldn’t Winnipeg be in it?

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                                        warehouse@lemmy.ca
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                                        By the “Within 100km Range” then Winnipeg would be in it. By this image however it seems as though the highlighted area wouldn’t reach Winnipeg.

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                                        • W warehouse@lemmy.ca

                                          By the “Within 100km Range” then Winnipeg would be in it. By this image however it seems as though the highlighted area wouldn’t reach Winnipeg.

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                                          canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                          Oh is that not what’s depicted? TBH I have trouble getting a sense of scale with a weird slice of a continent like this.

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