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When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

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  • RegR Reg

    @Ilka4You @randahl

    Permanent and irreplaceable dependency is a rentseeker's wet dream.

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    @ReggieHere every single one of us is responsible for not making this wet dream come true. We would create a 1984 / Matrix dystopia mash up. @randahl

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    • CarstenC Carsten

      @randahl and maybe small action for everyone... Download and share to other social media... Have your kids make a tiktok...

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      @carsten @randahl
      Shouldn't be a problem - haven't eaten there in years.

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      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

        When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

        Tariffs on Amazon and Facebook incentivises a digital decoupling from the the US, it shows Trump's oligarchs, that supporting Trump is the road to ruin, while NOT preventing the poor from putting food on the table.

        Hit those Zuckerbergs.

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        @randahl Not tarrifs: appropriate taxation, that is not removed later in some stupid capitulation

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        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

          When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

          Tariffs on Amazon and Facebook incentivises a digital decoupling from the the US, it shows Trump's oligarchs, that supporting Trump is the road to ruin, while NOT preventing the poor from putting food on the table.

          Hit those Zuckerbergs.

          Alister BulmanA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @randahl The Danes could simply decide to not sell the USA any more Ozempic (or reduce it by 90%, leaving legitimate medical need untouched - same for all the insulin they sell to the USA).
          See how loudly people start screaming to the government for their GLP-1

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          • CarstenC Carsten

            @randahl and maybe small action for everyone... Download and share to other social media... Have your kids make a tiktok...

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            João Tiago Rebelo (NAFO J-121)J This user is from outside of this forum
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            @carsten have been doing it to McDonalds and every other US company (either owned or trademarked, even if through franchises) since November 6th 2024, haven't missed a thing.
            @randahl

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            • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

              @randahl
              Also ESPECIALLY Franchises and physical services such as fastfood, coffee, delivery, rentals, ride hail, Hilton etc. These are parasites. They underpay, use fake royalties and other schemes to export profits without or little tax. They often require a local to rent the premises and put up capital.

              Actually BAN the stupid parasites.

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              @raymaccarthy until then, EU consumers should simply boycott them all [I'm doing my part, had budgeted around €3.500 to be spent in 2025 on US products and services, ended up spending only €123 because of contracts/subscriptions I couldn't stop until February, after that it dried up and in 2026 I will spend zero).
              @randahl

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              • ImmigrationIsNotACrimeI ImmigrationIsNotACrime

                @randahl

                If Trump is seriously threatened by EU sanctions, especially those sanction effect the tech sector, he has the option of switching Europe off.

                He can switch off at will any European or EU government or agency selectively. He can shut down any company or group of companies.

                Literally, those organisations would switch on their computers and nothing would work. Or he could just shut down access to data. Or flight bookings. Or whatever he and the technokings decide.

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                Nicolas Guillou, French ICC judge sanctioned by the US: 'You are effectively blacklisted by much of the world's banking system'

                Six judges and three prosecutors at the International Criminal Court have been sanctioned by the Trump administration. In an interview with Le Monde, Guillou discusses the impact of these measures on his work and daily life.

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                @iinac @randahl
                A simple question is why should Europe sanction American digital services?
                The current situation leads every reasonably thinking European citizen to find alternative analog and digital products.
                So if these alternatives have a wide user base will evolve and become better, compared to what they are now.
                So if people get used to these alternatives, then there is no way back.

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                • Margaritis DilosM Margaritis Dilos

                  @iinac @randahl
                  A simple question is why should Europe sanction American digital services?
                  The current situation leads every reasonably thinking European citizen to find alternative analog and digital products.
                  So if these alternatives have a wide user base will evolve and become better, compared to what they are now.
                  So if people get used to these alternatives, then there is no way back.

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                  @margadil @randahl

                  I agree. That's what should happen. Brazil have gone down this road and developed much more independent digital services. I'm not sure what analogue services remain.

                  The problem is Europeans haven't got alternatives. It is easier to find Indian IT alternative services than European ones.

                  The US could literally switch your phone off, stop mapping services, shutdown email systems, cloud storage, switch off business finance software, sales platforms, even specialist software such as video editing, defense systems or social media etc etc.

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                  • Alister BulmanA Alister Bulman

                    @randahl The Danes could simply decide to not sell the USA any more Ozempic (or reduce it by 90%, leaving legitimate medical need untouched - same for all the insulin they sell to the USA).
                    See how loudly people start screaming to the government for their GLP-1

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                    @alister @randahl 100% of the viagra used in the US is produced in Ireland. The GOP likely takes more of that than Ozempic.

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                    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                      When retaliating against Trump, I hope the EU targets digital services.

                      Tariffs on Amazon and Facebook incentivises a digital decoupling from the the US, it shows Trump's oligarchs, that supporting Trump is the road to ruin, while NOT preventing the poor from putting food on the table.

                      Hit those Zuckerbergs.

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                      @randahl And as a bonus maybe I won't have to use fucking Teams or Outlook any more, free at last.

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