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The foxes in my back garden feel safe enough to sleep on their backs - enjoying the sun on their bellies

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  • Crovanian (CamstonIsland)C Crovanian (CamstonIsland)

    @rufustheduck why the fuck is a fox living in this suburban devastation of nature thriving more than most people? Your world is crumbling, your habitat shattered? How dare you frolic!

    Bet that fox doesn’t even pay taxes…

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    @Crovanian he's happy because he just finished his tax return

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    • RufusR Rufus

      @BackFromTheDud don't worry - apparently they're in the process of domesticating themselves

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      @rufustheduck Not while there are stupid fucks in red jackets in the UK. #HuntTheHunters #StopFoxHunting

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      • RufusR Rufus

        The foxes in my back garden feel safe enough to sleep on their backs - enjoying the sun on their bellies

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        #fox #wildlife #garden #animals

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        @rufustheduck

        Exposing vitals by any animal a sign of trust.

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        • I see Dud people!B I see Dud people!

          @rufustheduck I will never understand why we didn't try to domesticate the Fox.

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          @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck There is a Russian domesticated fox; the domestic silver fox. It took modern knowledge of genetics, animal husbandry and breeding facility arrangement to pull it off.

          Two traits of animals that usually bode poorly for domestication is if they are solitary (because then you can't co-opt any natural instincts for trying to fit into a hierarchy to get the animal to follow orders - and often, solitary animals are also a lot more shy, because they don't have safety in numbers), and if they won't mate if they're confined or being watched. And, well, foxes tick both boxes. Wolves don't, so they were a lot easier for Paleolithic animal breeders to work with.

          (Cats apparently self-domesticated. Human settlements attract cat prey and humans like having cats around to kill pests, so cats that tolerated human proximity had a selective advantage over cats that didn't.)

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          • RufusR Rufus

            They act very similarly to dogs. They chase each other, pretend to fight, and I've even seen them playing with balls and other things they can use as toys

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            #foxes #wildlife #animals

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            @rufustheduck

            This is a Very nice series of posts/pics on foxes! I know nothing about them & it's kind of cute that they play/interact with one another like dogs. Thanks for sharing & Well DoneπŸ‘πŸ‘

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            • dataramaD datarama

              @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck There is a Russian domesticated fox; the domestic silver fox. It took modern knowledge of genetics, animal husbandry and breeding facility arrangement to pull it off.

              Two traits of animals that usually bode poorly for domestication is if they are solitary (because then you can't co-opt any natural instincts for trying to fit into a hierarchy to get the animal to follow orders - and often, solitary animals are also a lot more shy, because they don't have safety in numbers), and if they won't mate if they're confined or being watched. And, well, foxes tick both boxes. Wolves don't, so they were a lot easier for Paleolithic animal breeders to work with.

              (Cats apparently self-domesticated. Human settlements attract cat prey and humans like having cats around to kill pests, so cats that tolerated human proximity had a selective advantage over cats that didn't.)

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              @datarama interesting! Thank you for sharing

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              • CindyT Cindy

                @rufustheduck

                This is a Very nice series of posts/pics on foxes! I know nothing about them & it's kind of cute that they play/interact with one another like dogs. Thanks for sharing & Well DoneπŸ‘πŸ‘

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                @TrueBlue4THREE I'm happy you enjoyed them. I feel very lucky to get to see this kind of behaviour from my window

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                • dataramaD datarama

                  @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck There is a Russian domesticated fox; the domestic silver fox. It took modern knowledge of genetics, animal husbandry and breeding facility arrangement to pull it off.

                  Two traits of animals that usually bode poorly for domestication is if they are solitary (because then you can't co-opt any natural instincts for trying to fit into a hierarchy to get the animal to follow orders - and often, solitary animals are also a lot more shy, because they don't have safety in numbers), and if they won't mate if they're confined or being watched. And, well, foxes tick both boxes. Wolves don't, so they were a lot easier for Paleolithic animal breeders to work with.

                  (Cats apparently self-domesticated. Human settlements attract cat prey and humans like having cats around to kill pests, so cats that tolerated human proximity had a selective advantage over cats that didn't.)

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                  @datarama This is how it REALLY happened with cats πŸ˜‚ @rufustheduck

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                  • RufusR Rufus

                    @TrueBlue4THREE I'm happy you enjoyed them. I feel very lucky to get to see this kind of behaviour from my window

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                    @rufustheduck

                    Yes, you have picked a wonderful place to live & view the beauty of nature!

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                    • fβ™― aβ™― ∞T fβ™― aβ™― ∞

                      @Nazani i must say Midsomer Murders is the reason i know what fox screaming sounds like 🫣

                      @rufustheduck

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                      @tsadiq @rufustheduck In real life it's more shrill, sometimes almost sounds like an animal being killed. Very unsettling to hear in the wee hours.

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                        And we thought only dogs show this behaviour. Hah!
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                        • RufusR Rufus

                          They're smart enough to be wary of humans, and when I go into my garden, they watch me cautiously.

                          If I appear to be moving in their direction, they disappear into the bushes

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                          #fox #animals #nature #garden

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                          also could see one when i lived in london, she was napping in the neighbour's garden every afternoon. I filmed her from our bedroom window but even though it was kinda far, any sound or movement would make her super alert

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                          From our bedroom window we can see the neighbour's back garden, which is pretty wild.

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                          • RufusR Rufus

                            The foxes in my back garden feel safe enough to sleep on their backs - enjoying the sun on their bellies

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                            #fox #wildlife #garden #animals

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                            @rufustheduck this is so cute

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                            • RufusR Rufus

                              The foxes in my back garden feel safe enough to sleep on their backs - enjoying the sun on their bellies

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                              #fox #wildlife #garden #animals

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                              @rufustheduck
                              Same with ours πŸ‘ πŸ˜€

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                              • NazaniN Nazani

                                @tsadiq @rufustheduck In real life it's more shrill, sometimes almost sounds like an animal being killed. Very unsettling to hear in the wee hours.

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                                @Nazani @tsadiq @rufustheduck even moreso in a tent πŸ¦ŠπŸ“’πŸ•οΈπŸ˜±

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                                • RufusR Rufus

                                  I took these pictures from my bedroom window. There are always foxes in the communal garden to our block, because people don't really use it so they feel safe

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                                  #fox #animals #nature #london

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                                  @rufustheduck In have read that there is a theory that foxes are in a kind of self domestication process right now and it looks like it to me πŸ˜‚

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                                  • Vronimus GeisterschlossV Vronimus Geisterschloss

                                    @rufustheduck In have read that there is a theory that foxes are in a kind of self domestication process right now and it looks like it to me πŸ˜‚

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                                    @vronimus_ironimus i can absolutely believe it

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                                    • dataramaD datarama

                                      @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck There is a Russian domesticated fox; the domestic silver fox. It took modern knowledge of genetics, animal husbandry and breeding facility arrangement to pull it off.

                                      Two traits of animals that usually bode poorly for domestication is if they are solitary (because then you can't co-opt any natural instincts for trying to fit into a hierarchy to get the animal to follow orders - and often, solitary animals are also a lot more shy, because they don't have safety in numbers), and if they won't mate if they're confined or being watched. And, well, foxes tick both boxes. Wolves don't, so they were a lot easier for Paleolithic animal breeders to work with.

                                      (Cats apparently self-domesticated. Human settlements attract cat prey and humans like having cats around to kill pests, so cats that tolerated human proximity had a selective advantage over cats that didn't.)

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                                      @datarama @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck I think I read once a piece about how "dogs" in some areas of South America were actually domestic foxes not wolves around time colonizers arrived, but it was found only later from archaeological evidence why they were so different from domestic wolves, and by then the domestic fox line had long been extinct. Just that I read it years ago and can't really remember where!

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                                      • DNA scheduleR DNA schedule

                                        @Nazani @tsadiq @rufustheduck even moreso in a tent πŸ¦ŠπŸ“’πŸ•οΈπŸ˜±

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                                        @ryanprior ahah, kinda had the same experience with roe deer, their barking is scary as hell. Foxes weren't the one keeping me awake for hours that night πŸ₯²

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                                        • LeeaL Leea

                                          @datarama @BackFromTheDud @rufustheduck I think I read once a piece about how "dogs" in some areas of South America were actually domestic foxes not wolves around time colonizers arrived, but it was found only later from archaeological evidence why they were so different from domestic wolves, and by then the domestic fox line had long been extinct. Just that I read it years ago and can't really remember where!

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                                          @lepaggoth fascinating!

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