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  • cloudlessC cloudless

    If it worked, well-known brands would adopt the technology.

    I don’t trust any brand that adds a random Japanese phrase in the packaging to look more sophisticated.

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    howrar@lemmy.ca
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    Is it really that weird for a Japanese brand to have Japanese text on their products?

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      Is it really that weird for a Japanese brand to have Japanese text on their products?

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      makingrain@lemmy.world
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      It has Chinese as well, brah. Other commenter is correct, this is a common trope even in China.

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        Is it really that weird for a Japanese brand to have Japanese text on their products?

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        It is not a Japanese brand. It is a Chinese brand pretending to be Japanese.

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        • cloudlessC cloudless

          It is not a Japanese brand. It is a Chinese brand pretending to be Japanese.

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          howrar@lemmy.ca
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          Ah, you’re right. Didn’t pick up on that.

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            Does anyone have any opinions on nitro-infused carbon steel? I have a large carbon steel wok at home and found this smaller wok for $30 at my local Asian grocery store. I like it because the smaller size and larger flat bottom makes it easier to wield and cook evenly. Some light research shows it’s more for making the pan more durable and doesn’t really affect cooking, although I did see a comment that it’s a little harder for the seasoning to stick.

            I haven’t seen any negative stuff safety-wise yet, but I did see that the process is used commonly for manufacturing industrial materials and is even used in guns. So I don’t really know if it’s safe because ammonia or sodium cyanide are the nitrogen-rich ingredients that are applied to the pan. And to a layman’s ear, that doesn’t really sound nice.

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            callmeanai@lemmy.world
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            Seasoning doesn’t “stick” on carbon steel like cast iron. You aren’t leaving a surface on the pan.

            The short over simplified version is your just getting the pan really hot.

            If you’re not scrubbing that thing with soap and treating it like cast iron, like I suspect, you are just doing extra work.

            That comment you keep referencing in here is worthless fyi.

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            • G grue@lemmy.world

              I like it because the smaller size and larger flat bottom makes it easier to wield and cook evenly.

              Woks aren’t supposed to cook evenly. They’re supposed to have all the heat concentrated in the middle so that you can control how fast the food is cooking by scooting it up the sides.

              I suppose if you’re trying to use one on an electric cooktop you might have to begrudgingly accept a flat bottom, but a round-bottom wok (used over a high-BTU but small diameter gas burner that looks like a jet engine, or even charcoal in a chimney starter outside) is more “correct.”

              Edit: honestly, if smaller size + larger flat bottom is what you want, IMO you should get a western-style carbon steel skillet instead.

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              9point6@lemmy.world
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              This. A wok with a flat bottom is just an elaborate saucepan

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              • C callmeanai@lemmy.world

                Seasoning doesn’t “stick” on carbon steel like cast iron. You aren’t leaving a surface on the pan.

                The short over simplified version is your just getting the pan really hot.

                If you’re not scrubbing that thing with soap and treating it like cast iron, like I suspect, you are just doing extra work.

                That comment you keep referencing in here is worthless fyi.

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                scytale
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                Sorry, what do you mean extra work? I season my regular carbon steel pan after I wash it. I avoid using soap to wash unless it’s really full of grime. I also bought it unseasoned so I had to go through the entire seasoning process before using it. I haven’t bought the nitrated carbon steel pan in the picture yet.

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                  I like it because the smaller size and larger flat bottom makes it easier to wield and cook evenly.

                  Woks aren’t supposed to cook evenly. They’re supposed to have all the heat concentrated in the middle so that you can control how fast the food is cooking by scooting it up the sides.

                  I suppose if you’re trying to use one on an electric cooktop you might have to begrudgingly accept a flat bottom, but a round-bottom wok (used over a high-BTU but small diameter gas burner that looks like a jet engine, or even charcoal in a chimney starter outside) is more “correct.”

                  Edit: honestly, if smaller size + larger flat bottom is what you want, IMO you should get a western-style carbon steel skillet instead.

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                  scytale
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                  Yup I understand that. The reason I prefer a wok is that it’s versatile because it has higher walls than a saucepan. I use it as my swiss army knife pan where I cook everything there except soups. Having a wider flat bottom while at the same time higher walls that still bring the food to the center is the best of both worlds to me.

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                    Sorry, what do you mean extra work? I season my regular carbon steel pan after I wash it. I avoid using soap to wash unless it’s really full of grime. I also bought it unseasoned so I had to go through the entire seasoning process before using it. I haven’t bought the nitrated carbon steel pan in the picture yet.

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                    callmeanai@lemmy.world
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                    Avoiding soap and not taking a scrub brush to it. You can skip all that, just use dawn and a scrub pad

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                      Yup I understand that. The reason I prefer a wok is that it’s versatile because it has higher walls than a saucepan. I use it as my swiss army knife pan where I cook everything there except soups. Having a wider flat bottom while at the same time higher walls that still bring the food to the center is the best of both worlds to me.

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                      It sounds like you’re looking for a deep frying pan, which is different to a wok, though similar in shape (except for lacking a round bottom). Looking for “deep frying pans” might be more useful for you, although western-style woks are usually very similar if you get a wok from a western shop.

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                        This. A wok with a flat bottom is just an elaborate saucepan

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                        Bro you’re woking a thin line here…

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                        • S scytale

                          Does anyone have any opinions on nitro-infused carbon steel? I have a large carbon steel wok at home and found this smaller wok for $30 at my local Asian grocery store. I like it because the smaller size and larger flat bottom makes it easier to wield and cook evenly. Some light research shows it’s more for making the pan more durable and doesn’t really affect cooking, although I did see a comment that it’s a little harder for the seasoning to stick.

                          I haven’t seen any negative stuff safety-wise yet, but I did see that the process is used commonly for manufacturing industrial materials and is even used in guns. So I don’t really know if it’s safe because ammonia or sodium cyanide are the nitrogen-rich ingredients that are applied to the pan. And to a layman’s ear, that doesn’t really sound nice.

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                          Really? Nobody cares about the WARNING?

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                            Really? Nobody cares about the WARNING?

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                            scytale
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                            That’s a California regulation that puts that label on anything that may have a chance of causing cancer. The intention is good, but it’s largely being ignored because it’s almost on everything and it defeats the purpose. Not saying this one in particular should be ignored, just providing context on what that label is.

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                              That’s a California regulation that puts that label on anything that may have a chance of causing cancer. The intention is good, but it’s largely being ignored because it’s almost on everything and it defeats the purpose. Not saying this one in particular should be ignored, just providing context on what that label is.

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                              Thanks for the context added, that makes sense, one of those rules that becomes counter productive, as people can start ignoring real warnings.

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                                Thanks for the context added, that makes sense, one of those rules that becomes counter productive, as people can start ignoring real warnings.

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                                Lumber has the warning. Literal trees.

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                                • S scytale

                                  Does anyone have any opinions on nitro-infused carbon steel? I have a large carbon steel wok at home and found this smaller wok for $30 at my local Asian grocery store. I like it because the smaller size and larger flat bottom makes it easier to wield and cook evenly. Some light research shows it’s more for making the pan more durable and doesn’t really affect cooking, although I did see a comment that it’s a little harder for the seasoning to stick.

                                  I haven’t seen any negative stuff safety-wise yet, but I did see that the process is used commonly for manufacturing industrial materials and is even used in guns. So I don’t really know if it’s safe because ammonia or sodium cyanide are the nitrogen-rich ingredients that are applied to the pan. And to a layman’s ear, that doesn’t really sound nice.

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                                  Why do I need Nitro in a wok? And does that mean the Discord mods can ban me from making fried rice?

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                                    That’s a California regulation that puts that label on anything that may have a chance of causing cancer. The intention is good, but it’s largely being ignored because it’s almost on everything and it defeats the purpose. Not saying this one in particular should be ignored, just providing context on what that label is.

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                                    I dont think it defeats the purpose as much as it has become boring, like “a boring dystopia” kinda boring. If everything can increase risk of cancer, then it’s not really something you can avoid. Like trying to take a walk in the rain but you don’t want to get wet so you move under roofs and eaves only to end up wet anyway when crossing gaps between them.

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                                      Seasoning doesn’t “stick” on carbon steel like cast iron. You aren’t leaving a surface on the pan.

                                      The short over simplified version is your just getting the pan really hot.

                                      If you’re not scrubbing that thing with soap and treating it like cast iron, like I suspect, you are just doing extra work.

                                      That comment you keep referencing in here is worthless fyi.

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                                      nettle@mander.xyz
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                                      But you are leaving a surface on the pan when seasoning carbon steel, a thin polymer. Also wdym treating it like cast iron? AFAIK their non-stickness works in the same way. (I definitely treat them the same and it seems to work)

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                                        I dont think it defeats the purpose as much as it has become boring, like “a boring dystopia” kinda boring. If everything can increase risk of cancer, then it’s not really something you can avoid. Like trying to take a walk in the rain but you don’t want to get wet so you move under roofs and eaves only to end up wet anyway when crossing gaps between them.

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                                        surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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                                        It defeats the purpose because a label is cheaper than a lawsuit and there’s no minimum level. They will literally put it on things that have zero chance to cause cancer, because why not?

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                                        • cloudlessC cloudless

                                          If it worked, well-known brands would adopt the technology.

                                          I don’t trust any brand that adds a random Japanese phrase in the packaging to look more sophisticated.

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                                          It’s a 好帮手wok, a line of SUPOR, which is a very well known and regarded brand in China and Asia more broadly.

                                          The Japanese isn’t random, just reads as ちゅうかなべ which is just Chinese wok. They probably added it to the California specific packing to appeal to the rather substantial Japanese market there.

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