When Microsoft finally pulls the plug on Windows 10 its successor will be four years old, and for three of those, it was never the OS of choice amongst Steam users
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Using windows 11 got me to switch my home PC to Linux at the start of the year so I have them to thank or that. My work PC just got updated from W10 to W11 and so far it’s so much worse than I was expecting, purely based on performance/buginess alone. I have no problems with most the features but it all feels one step forward two steps back when the whole system seems to be much less responsive
Same. I got sick of Windows late last year and swapped to Linux in October/November.
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I’ll stick with Win10 and third party protection until my GPU, games or gaming related apps/peripherals stop working. Until then, I see no reason to upgrade, even if they were to pay me to do it.
Probably not a good idea once they stop security patches for win10.
Currently, in my head, moving to win11 (assuming you wont use linux) makes the most sense instead of foregoing security patches (whenever they stop).
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I’ll stick with Win10 and third party protection until my GPU, games or gaming related apps/peripherals stop working. Until then, I see no reason to upgrade, even if they were to pay me to do it.
At least switch to a Linux build. Hell, install a portable one on a USB stick to see if you like it first. The lack of security updates for W10 means you could very easily end up with a zombie computer on your home network.
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Using windows 11 got me to switch my home PC to Linux at the start of the year so I have them to thank or that. My work PC just got updated from W10 to W11 and so far it’s so much worse than I was expecting, purely based on performance/buginess alone. I have no problems with most the features but it all feels one step forward two steps back when the whole system seems to be much less responsive
I’m just waiting for escape from tarkov to send the email to battle eye to enable Linux support and I’ll throw windows into the sun
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Hi. I’m a Linux convert and hate Windows as well, but I feel the need to contest some of this
I hate rounded corners […] I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used
Rounded corners only lose something like 30 pixels (assuming 100% resolution scale) out of the millions on screen. Serious question, no shade or sarcasm: do you need those corner pixels? Plus in Windows 11, the window corners are only rounded when the window is floating. The corners go square when the window is snapped and maximized so you get those corner pixels back anytime real estate matters most.
I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
That’s always been the case since… the Start menu was invented, I think? In Windows 11, just set your taskbar to Left instead of Center and you get that behavior back.
[The Start menu is] all small icons and you can’t have them in groups.
The former is correct, the latter isn’t. I exclusively keep my icons in groups, in the grid along with regular pins, on my last remaining Windows 11 computer. As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11. Closest option I have is Plasma Drawer, which works but requires me to use the KDE Menu Editor to customize which is less convenient.
The taskbar freezing thing sucks for sure, my only recommendation would be to maybe try a 3rd party replacement like StartAllBack but it isn’t free.
The rounded corners thing is definitely all about individual taste. my brain just likes to have the whole space filled. The rounded corners for me feels so… 2000’s Windows XP/ Early GNOME.
The start menu thing, yeah you can configure it. And no, before Windows 8, I think, there used to be a Gao of a few pixels around the start button if I remember well.
And as for the start menu tiles, again that’s all individual taste I guess, but I sincerely think that ergonomically speaking, it is better.
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Since my work “upgraded” to windows 11 the task bar is the bane of my existence.
We all run a laptop docked with two monitors. In windows 10 I would set a monitor as primary, drag the task bar to the laptop screen. That would result in the most real estate for the software I use with out clutter.
Can’t fucking do this is 11. It’s either primary or all monitors for task bar. Someone suggested auto hide the task bar. Holy shit even that has been fucking ruined in 11. It turns off randomly and frequently. Plus notifications seem to over ride the hiding.
It’s a fucking mess I tell ya. They put all the effort into spying on their users instead of making the actual OS function.
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Probably not a good idea once they stop security patches for win10.
Currently, in my head, moving to win11 (assuming you wont use linux) makes the most sense instead of foregoing security patches (whenever they stop).
Really? Sorry for my ignorance, but isn’t it possible to keep a secure system with malware software and firewalls? I might have to reconsider and just hate MS for moving that quickly to a halfassed OS
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What was your experience like?
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Using windows 11 got me to switch my home PC to Linux at the start of the year so I have them to thank or that. My work PC just got updated from W10 to W11 and so far it’s so much worse than I was expecting, purely based on performance/buginess alone. I have no problems with most the features but it all feels one step forward two steps back when the whole system seems to be much less responsive
This is real petty, but on my work laptop, moving from W10 to W11 removed the popup calendar in the taskbar on secondary monitors and however many years later, it still messes me up every day.
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The second Windows 10 expires, I’m switching to the Penguin
Why waiting? Do it now. Give Linux Mint a try, or elementaryOS if you want a mac-like experience.
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Hi. I’m a Linux convert and hate Windows as well, but I feel the need to contest some of this
I hate rounded corners […] I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used
Rounded corners only lose something like 30 pixels (assuming 100% resolution scale) out of the millions on screen. Serious question, no shade or sarcasm: do you need those corner pixels? Plus in Windows 11, the window corners are only rounded when the window is floating. The corners go square when the window is snapped and maximized so you get those corner pixels back anytime real estate matters most.
I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
That’s always been the case since… the Start menu was invented, I think? In Windows 11, just set your taskbar to Left instead of Center and you get that behavior back.
[The Start menu is] all small icons and you can’t have them in groups.
The former is correct, the latter isn’t. I exclusively keep my icons in groups, in the grid along with regular pins, on my last remaining Windows 11 computer. As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11. Closest option I have is Plasma Drawer, which works but requires me to use the KDE Menu Editor to customize which is less convenient.
The taskbar freezing thing sucks for sure, my only recommendation would be to maybe try a 3rd party replacement like StartAllBack but it isn’t free.
Can you show an example of what the in grid groups look like? I can’t really imagine what it would look like.
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I have Win 11 at work and I hate it so much for so many reasons I don’t even know where to start.
I know it’s the trend right now, but I hate rounded corners for one. I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used. And the shrunken floating taskbar is a GUI ergonomic nightmare. I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
Speaking of which, my task bar keeps freezing every day I use it so my system tray and even the time is never accurate.
The start menu is a fucking mess. I really loved the Windows 10 start menu with its tiles and groups. Now you have to manually pin everything, it’s all small icons and you can’t have them in groups. You have to create sub-folders to put the icons in, adding an extra click for nothing.
I hate that it comes with an integrated AI and I hate that it has this privacy nightmare “recall” feature or whatever the fuck that takes sreenshots of your monitor to feed its AI.
I went 100% Linux last fall with Kubuntu. I added a tiled menu and even added Windows 10 style window decorations to complete the look and feel.
With the latest advancements in Steam, Wine and Proton, which has been able to play every game I threw at it so far, it’s become such a powerful OS.
I’ve never been happier!
I was just forced to update at work and i haven’t stopped bitching about it since!
A couple other complaints:
- I’ve been a top-taskbar person for a long time and now it’s locked to the bottom.
- Also the emoji picker isn’t as easy or efficient to use as it now requires extra inputs.Thanks Winblows devs. I hate you. 🥰
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I have Win 11 at work and I hate it so much for so many reasons I don’t even know where to start.
I know it’s the trend right now, but I hate rounded corners for one. I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used. And the shrunken floating taskbar is a GUI ergonomic nightmare. I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
Speaking of which, my task bar keeps freezing every day I use it so my system tray and even the time is never accurate.
The start menu is a fucking mess. I really loved the Windows 10 start menu with its tiles and groups. Now you have to manually pin everything, it’s all small icons and you can’t have them in groups. You have to create sub-folders to put the icons in, adding an extra click for nothing.
I hate that it comes with an integrated AI and I hate that it has this privacy nightmare “recall” feature or whatever the fuck that takes sreenshots of your monitor to feed its AI.
I went 100% Linux last fall with Kubuntu. I added a tiled menu and even added Windows 10 style window decorations to complete the look and feel.
With the latest advancements in Steam, Wine and Proton, which has been able to play every game I threw at it so far, it’s become such a powerful OS.
I’ve never been happier!
A lot of those problems is 100% fixable through the settings menu…
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Really? Sorry for my ignorance, but isn’t it possible to keep a secure system with malware software and firewalls? I might have to reconsider and just hate MS for moving that quickly to a halfassed OS
Go to www.massgrave.dev and check the tutorial for upgrading your existing Windows 10 install to Windows 10 IoT LTSC 2019. You’ll have security updates until 2032 I think.
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Using windows 11 got me to switch my home PC to Linux at the start of the year so I have them to thank or that. My work PC just got updated from W10 to W11 and so far it’s so much worse than I was expecting, purely based on performance/buginess alone. I have no problems with most the features but it all feels one step forward two steps back when the whole system seems to be much less responsive
What I don’t understand about Windows 11 is why they can’t seem to fix the weird delay that now exists across the entire UI.
Right click, weird delay, menu shows up.
Press the Start button, weird delay, menu shows up.
Open Explorer, weird delay, program shows up.
Enter text in the search field, weird delay, results show up.
Windows 10 didn’t have that delay.
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I went 100% Linux last fall with Kubuntu.
For those reading along, this person is talking about the KDE Plasma desktop environment. The Kubuntu Linux distribution uses it by default, but you can also install and switch to it on just about any popular Linux distro, even if it’s not the default.
I use Plasma, too. It’s good, reasonably familiar, and respects the fact that people might want to tweak things to fit their needs.
I use Arch with KDE Plasma and it looks like a clean version of the traditional desktop you’d expect on Windows, with a bottom taskbar, start menu, etc. But with a really clean theme and tailored to my needs.
My wife is also using Arch with the exact same KDE Plasma version… But hers looks exactly like a Mac, with a rounded translucent dock, a menu bar at the top, widgets, animated wallpapers and so on.
So yeah KDE Plasma is amazing, it will adapt to your exact preferences and not get in the way.
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The second Windows 10 expires, I’m switching to the Penguin
Start now friend, it may take time to find alternatives for some of your workflow, also to find a flavour you prefer, Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, etc, there is a lot of choice. I’ve been slowly trying to get everything setup for a while now. Only a few more little apps and things to finish the switch. sadly I will still need windows for several VR games performance wise, some are just too stuttery on nix. I used to love Ubuntu/Gnome but KDE is a better environment, from the reading I did, for VR with an Nvidia vid card
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A lot of those problems is 100% fixable through the settings menu…
For 48h until they update
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Hi. I’m a Linux convert and hate Windows as well, but I feel the need to contest some of this
I hate rounded corners […] I like having my whole desktop real estate to be used
Rounded corners only lose something like 30 pixels (assuming 100% resolution scale) out of the millions on screen. Serious question, no shade or sarcasm: do you need those corner pixels? Plus in Windows 11, the window corners are only rounded when the window is floating. The corners go square when the window is snapped and maximized so you get those corner pixels back anytime real estate matters most.
I want to just throw my cursor into a corner without looking and click with the confidence that it will open my start menu.
That’s always been the case since… the Start menu was invented, I think? In Windows 11, just set your taskbar to Left instead of Center and you get that behavior back.
[The Start menu is] all small icons and you can’t have them in groups.
The former is correct, the latter isn’t. I exclusively keep my icons in groups, in the grid along with regular pins, on my last remaining Windows 11 computer. As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11. Closest option I have is Plasma Drawer, which works but requires me to use the KDE Menu Editor to customize which is less convenient.
The taskbar freezing thing sucks for sure, my only recommendation would be to maybe try a 3rd party replacement like StartAllBack but it isn’t free.
As someone who loves KDE, it drives me crazy that I can’t keep my own in-grid groups like in Windows 11.
Hey, check out Tiled Menu for a menu with a grid.
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What I don’t understand about Windows 11 is why they can’t seem to fix the weird delay that now exists across the entire UI.
Right click, weird delay, menu shows up.
Press the Start button, weird delay, menu shows up.
Open Explorer, weird delay, program shows up.
Enter text in the search field, weird delay, results show up.
Windows 10 didn’t have that delay.
I read a long time ago that delays had to be added to desktop UIs because users didn’t think the computer was “working” if it responded in a single video frame. Maybe the M$ LLM read that too and took it to heart.
