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Microsoft responds to Gaming Copilot controversy, says it uses screenshots to understand in-game events, not for training AI models — optional feature can be turned off, but not easily uninstalled

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  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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    #42

    I don’t give a flying fuck how they try to explain it. I don’t want AI driven anything.

    Let people opt in to that crap. They have an app store, out it’s there.

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    • A artyom

      …after spending 2 weeks trying to figure out how to make it work? Yeah I’ll restart the computer in 2 minutes instead, thank you.

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      jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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      #43

      You think making a VM takes two weeks? I’m pretty sure Microsoft provides images you can just pop into virtualbox, but it’s been a while since I used VMs.

      Also if you need to use the windows software alongside your regular workflow (eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal), rebooting the whole thing is going to suck.

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      • A artyom

        …what? How are you going to do work in the VM with no internet access?

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        jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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        Depends on what you need to do. You could mount a folder to get files in or out, for some cases.

        Have you used virtual machines before? Done software development?

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          I don’t give a flying fuck how they try to explain it. I don’t want AI driven anything.

          Let people opt in to that crap. They have an app store, out it’s there.

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          ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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          #45

          People are already opting in to use Windows though.

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          • rustyshackleford@lemmy.zipR rustyshackleford@lemmy.zip

            Any other suggestions for Windows 11 users that haven’t had to use it since 8? I want to kill as much of their garbage as possible, but I feel like I missed so much of their dastardly crap I could be missing something.

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            p1nkman@lemmy.world
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            #46

            Win11debloat. Thank me later.

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            • J jjjalljs@ttrpg.network

              You think making a VM takes two weeks? I’m pretty sure Microsoft provides images you can just pop into virtualbox, but it’s been a while since I used VMs.

              Also if you need to use the windows software alongside your regular workflow (eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal), rebooting the whole thing is going to suck.

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              artyom
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              #47

              You think making a VM takes two weeks?

              I dunno, I spent several hours trying before I gave up.

              eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal

              I can’t fathom a scenario where I would need to do that.

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              • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                Yeah, ever since I’ve never purchased a console (Only exception was a Wii and a 3DS, which I modded with homebrew and never connects to Nintendo’s servers), because they are completely unable to be audited. Personal computers (and certain smartphones) can.

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                landless2029@lemmy.world
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                #48

                My modded Wii is the one console I’d consider hooking back up.

                My living room is a modded android stick and a steam deck on a dock

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                • A artyom

                  You think making a VM takes two weeks?

                  I dunno, I spent several hours trying before I gave up.

                  eg: reading info out of the windows software with your eyes and then typing into your IDE or terminal

                  I can’t fathom a scenario where I would need to do that.

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                  jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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                  #49

                  Setting up a windows VM at my old job took like a few minutes, but I already had virtual box (I think that’s what I used)

                  And I needed to see some software running in a Windows box while editing the code that talked to it.

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                    I don’t give a flying fuck how they try to explain it. I don’t want AI driven anything.

                    Let people opt in to that crap. They have an app store, out it’s there.

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                    affiliate@lemmy.world
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                    #50

                    if they did that then nobody would use it, and then the shareholders would be sad.

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                    • B bosht@lemmy.world

                      I’ve thought this for well over a decade. Probably longer but I’m not going to do the math. Why the fuck do we have anti monopoly laws if they’re never enforced anymore? Is it because they found loopholes? Especially with media conglomerates and horrors like Disney walking the land.

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                      Hemingways_Shotgun
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                      #51

                      Their loopholes are called “campaign contributions”.

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                      • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                        People are already opting in to use Windows though.

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                        ibot@feddit.org
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                        Yes and no. It’s still more a theoretical choice.

                        If you buy a new computer, you have basically the choice between MacOS and Windows. And if they do not want a Mac or are not able to afford it, the only only Windows.

                        Sure, you can buy computers with pre-installed Linux, but it’s hard to find.

                        Now, with Hardware not supporting Windows 11 anymore, more people switch to Linux, but it’s still a small amount. And many people do not know how to install linux. It’s relativ easy these days on older hardware, but if one buys a brand new computer, there are often still problems with hardware that is not yet supported out of the box in Linux.

                        I think, consumers should have the right of choice for an OS at the moment they buy a computer. There should be the option to have Windows, a Linux distribution or no OS installed.

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                          #53

                          Office applications (Excel, Powerpoint, PowerBI, Word) is one area where I can’t have any friction at all, since that’s how I get my income. I need the latest version of these applications for desktop, web version does not cut it and Linux emulation seems very spotty unless you are OK with using a much older version of office like 2013/2016.

                          That just on the Microsoft side, there is also Tableau desktop, some Adobe applications and even open source Windows applications that I rely on that don’t have native Linux versions (Notepad++, Paint.net).

                          I am planning to buy a new laptop, might be worth trying to switch to Linux on the laptop and experiment with emulated Office solutions (while always having a reliable fallback on desktop).

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                          • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            You could use a virtual machine or a compartmentalized solution like Wimboat.

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                            vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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                            if you use a vm, you still need a legit copy of windows (lol)

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                            • rustyshackleford@lemmy.zipR rustyshackleford@lemmy.zip

                              Any other suggestions for Windows 11 users that haven’t had to use it since 8? I want to kill as much of their garbage as possible, but I feel like I missed so much of their dastardly crap I could be missing something.

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                              lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                              Get Windows 11 ltsc if you insist on using Windows. All that stuff people try to debloat is already not present on the ltsc version, and unlike the consumer version its not a constant battle of updates breaking things or installing yet another new copilot app.

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                              • R rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works

                                I just said fuckit and ran an exe called CrapFIxer. Not going to link it because I have no idea if it’s actually safe but I ran it on August 19th and my gaming PC doesn’t seem to be part of a bot network… yet.

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                                lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                                #56

                                Its probably safer to activate and run windows 11 ltsc after verifying the iso from multiple sources. No need for scripts after that and you don’t have to worry about the next new update forcing copilot into another part of Windows for a long time.

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                                • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                                  risingswell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                  Sure I totally believe them, but I’ll keep blocking data access to Microsoft processes anyway

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                                  • I ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca

                                    People are already opting in to use Windows though.

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                                    monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                    are being opted in. Slight difference.

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